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Any tips for restoring a No. 5 mower?

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jonesy

12-11-2005 17:59:16




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Hey guys just finished up an old 41 B. The next project is to restore the old No.5 mower that came with it. It was complete with the wood pitman, adjustable shaft shield, foot lift ect. Really a good complete unit. Ive got 2 blade bars and would like to put new blades on both. Im not sure of how to rerivet them or where to get new blades and rivets. I also need to replace a couple of guards it looks like. Any tips or a good parts source would be great. I hope to cut alot of grass this summer.

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Soldier Tom

12-13-2005 15:41:40




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 Re: Any tips for restoring a No. 5 mower? in reply to jonesy, 12-11-2005 17:59:16  
I"m doing one now. I found (mostly through this page, and up on the implement alley forum) several sources for parts. One place I was really surprised was how terribly the axle had worn down. The roler bearing had given out YEARS ago, and was ran rather than replaced (30 bucks). It dug 4 deep grooves in the axle and a new axle is around 50 bucks. oldjd4u.com has several components that you are looking for. You can also get the decals from Jorde. I found an old colorized ad brochure I"m guessing from around 1947. (It had the older style 4 legged leaping deer on the casting.) Anyway, it showed the grass board was red. I don"t know, perhaps someone here does, when or if there was a color change on that or if it just kind of "faded" to green, or natural, or whatever. There are a few strings on that topic as well. Where are you?
~Walk in peace~
Soldier Tom

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Ravgardner

12-12-2005 05:09:38




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 Re: Any tips for restoring a No. 5 mower? in reply to jonesy, 12-11-2005 17:59:16  
I rebuilt my dad's No. 5 mower and have had a great time using it. John T covered it very well. I would add these suggestions. Check for oil leakage around the crank shaft. There are seals available for that shaft from Deere. The new seals are narrow and allow you to place two in the space provided for the original seals. But I recommend, if its not leaking leave it alone. The second thing I'd recomend, since you have two cutter bars, rivet serated sections on one and smooth sections on the other. The fact of the matter is that smooth sections cut fine grasses better than serated sections. I have found the the type of stuff I mow varies and if I had the bars already set up with the different sections, I could just switch out the bars to match the conditions. Just a thought I have, that I wanted to share. Good luck and good cutting. I have a couple of pictures of the NO. 5 attached to the B on my web site. Look at the "44B AT Work" and "44 B After" galleries.

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Mike M

12-12-2005 05:09:23




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 Re: Any tips for restoring a No. 5 mower? in reply to jonesy, 12-11-2005 17:59:16  
When I restored a sickle bar for my LA I was able to buy a complete knife with the sections allready riveted on. I got it at TSC they had them in stock ! Not too bad price I forget the exact amount but I'm cheap so it couldn't of been to much ? I only needed a 5 footer so I just cut off 2 feet and only had to rivet on an end section. I got my hold downs from JD and bought guards from TSC. The ones they sell for JD's green ones ? wouldn't fit so I got some blue ones that seemed to match up to mine.

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12-11-2005 19:48:56




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 Re: Any tips for restoring a No. 5 mower? in reply to jonesy, 12-11-2005 17:59:16  
I have one of those mowers too. Parts are still available from John Deere, but are pricey. They even have the obscure parts, I was surprised.



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John T

12-11-2005 18:18:43




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 Re: Any tips for restoring a No. 5 mower? in reply to jonesy, 12-11-2005 17:59:16  
Jonesy, Those are good old mowers, I used to mow hay with them years ago, however if you plan on going into real heavy or down hay or fescue with them, you better:

1) Replace all those thin metal wear plates that set under the knife and the shoe.

2) Have alllll l good sharp rock guard ledger plates or replace/rivet new ledgers in them.

3) Have good and properly adjusted hold down clips.

4) Use one of those anti clog one-half section knife sections out on the very end.

5) Adjust the mower for proper REGISTER and LEAD and have any belts n slip clutches good n tight and grease or adjust the trip out as needed but you dont want it too greasy or loose or she may trip too easy. You also place wear plate/shims in the inner front shoe to adjust the tension and free play there where the knife head slides you know so she dont wobble.

6) Have each n every mower knife section good n sharp.

When I rebuilt one I had it in the shop and a grinder n cuttin torch n air impact tools all lined up n ready and stripped all the guards off and the knife n wear plates, cleaned her all up and reassembled.

You can buy most all those parts at like Rural King or Tractor Supply, I would buy a whole box of knife sections n rivets and rock guards or Ledgers and a new set of the beveled/carriage type plow bolts they use and wear plates n have her all ready to tear into.

Sounds like work n expense dont she???But if you do it right you will thank yourslef next summer otherwise you will be cussin n sweatin cuz the mower clogs grrrrr rrrrr rrrr Been there done that got the scars n the T Shirt

John T

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