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John Deere 'B' oil filter stud

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B from Big Lake

10-21-2005 12:56:59




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I have a 1951 John Deere "B". The oil filter stud spins when I attempt to instal the oil filter and tighten it on. I cannot get a seal and oil leaks badly when the engine is started. Any suggestions for dealing with this problem?




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buckeye al

10-21-2005 14:08:53




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 Re: John Deere 'B' oil filter stud in reply to B from Big Lake , 10-21-2005 12:56:59  
It is most likely that the big fat nut on the filter cap that looks like it needs to be tightened REAL TIGHT indeed was over wrenched! Likely therefore that the filter head (a casting on top of the steel filter canister) has been broken. Though the filter cap nut is big and impressive, it really does NOT require very much torque to prevent filter cap leakage.

I have never replaced one on a B but have twice done so on A's. On A's it can be accomplished from above through the crank case cover but it is not a particularly easy reach even for a lefty which certainly helps! Most guys pull the filter assembly out of the main case & reinstall it with a replaced casting.

Take your filter cap back off, remove the filter & you'll likely see that you're able to wobble the stud all over the place inside the open chamber. Maybe even able to push it up into the crank case some until it hits something else. If so, I suggest you consult a manual like an IT if not a Deere manual. They give pretty good instructions on how to R & R the filter assembly.

Good luck.

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donmyeil

10-21-2005 14:07:20




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 Re: John Deere 'B' oil filter stud in reply to B from Big Lake , 10-21-2005 12:56:59  
sounds like the filter cap has been overtightened and the top of the filter housing has busted. you will have to replace the top and probably the filter can as it is probably crushed as well.



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jgc

10-21-2005 13:46:15




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 Re: John Deere 'B' oil filter stud in reply to B from Big Lake , 10-21-2005 12:56:59  
B',
Sorry, I re-read your post and see that the stud is "spinning" On the "D" the stud threads into the oil filter head and there is a jam nut on top of the filter head to hold the stud in place when the filter is being serviced. If the 'B' is similar, it sounds like the stud is stripped or more likely the thread that it goes into is stripped. If yours is similar, I would remove the stud and check the threads up inside.

Jon

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JGC

10-21-2005 13:38:22




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 Re: John Deere 'B' oil filter stud in reply to B from Big Lake , 10-21-2005 12:56:59  
B'

I've only worked on a "D", but from the I&T manual (# JD-4 page 21) the filter assemblies look similar.
I would check to make sure that the 'nut' that threads onto the stud under the filter bottom cup turns easily and that the stud isn't bottoming out in that nut before it's pulled the the bottom cup up tight against the gasket! Mine was very crudded up and the stud bound in the nut. Make sure that the end plate and the filter outlet assembly are actually there. Both of these pieces were missing in mine and oil was by-passing the filter!

Good Luck!
Jon

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