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4320 vs 1130

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barnrat

10-14-2005 16:08:06




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I"m trying to choose between buying a rather pricey 4320 or a cheaper massey 1130. I"ve grown up on IH"s and Deeres, and I have a couple of 20 series deeres on my farm now. all I know about the 1130 is that it"s about the same hp as the 4320. Other then that how do these two stack up against each other?




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John - Central NY

10-15-2005 11:59:28




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-14-2005 16:08:06  
Same question was asked on AgricultureOnline a while ago. On that forum the 1130 won hands down.



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twopop

10-14-2005 16:56:03




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-14-2005 16:08:06  
a plymouth will do the job and so will a lincoln.just depends on what you want to ride in.that said,i have worked on alot of differant brand tractors.as far as i am concerned,john deere has and continues to be far ahead in design and longevity.if you do your own repairs,you should stay with deere because,they are better designed and easier to work on.



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got that right

10-15-2005 07:00:49




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to twopop, 10-14-2005 16:56:03  
Got that right, because my Plymouth is a Hemi Road Runner. Also own an 1130.



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JoeMN

10-14-2005 19:33:01




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to twopop, 10-14-2005 16:56:03  
It's always good to be reminded of John Deere's advanced engineering and innovations. In the late 1950's most manufacturers were struggling with obselete 6 cyl diesels,JD provided the market with an advanced 2 cyl. When most tractors came with electric starters and cumbersome batteries,JD gave us the clever pony motors. In the forefront of combine design,Deere is making an innovative rotary combine.No doubt all the rest will soon follow suit!

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dirtjockey

10-14-2005 20:07:48




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to JoeMN, 10-14-2005 19:33:01  
obselete 6 cyl's thats a good one. advanced two cylinders, stop my ribs are hurting now.. LOL...



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barnrat

10-14-2005 19:49:35




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to JoeMN, 10-14-2005 19:33:01  
I have an 830 2cyl electric start. It's a good tractor for discing for about an hour(then my back starts to hurt. And I don't know about you but I like to be able to apply the brakes and the tractor actually stops and I can put it in park like my 3020 or my 4020. you can take a guess at what tractor is soon going to be replaced on my farm.



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Logan

10-14-2005 18:52:59




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to twopop, 10-14-2005 16:56:03  
Well, we got many many masseys and never have major problems with them, knock on wood, got 1100s on up through an 8280. For the 1100 series we got couple 1100s, 1105, 1130, 1155. the 1130 is dads favorite tractor, haul silage, corn with 350bu wagons, bagger tractor, just an all around nice tractor.



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Glen in TX

10-14-2005 16:52:58




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-14-2005 16:08:06  
Well I'm not sure what type of work you have for it or how long you intend to keep it. I'm biased and would go with the 4320 but I would pick a 4320 over a 4020 too. A 71 4320 was the most trouble free JD we ever had period. Sure they all take some maintainance of some sort but we never had any major problems with it. The 404 engine in the 4320 was a popular JD engine as was the 8 speed trans. I don't know anything about the MF 1130 or Perkins 354T engines. Also weigh it on where you could get parts and service local too. If you have some 20 series already then you know they hold their value longer even today compared to others.

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Masterwelder

10-14-2005 16:38:51




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-14-2005 16:08:06  
You get what you pay for. Kinda loaded question to ask on a Deere fourm.



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barnrat

10-14-2005 17:12:43




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to Masterwelder, 10-14-2005 16:38:51  
As parts go It's pretty much even steven the AGCO(MF) dealer and the JD dealer have always been good for parts and service. The reason why Im looking at these two models of tractors is I just bought a 782 NH forage harvester and my 71 4020 powershift had quite a time managing with it chopping corn this fall. The reason im considering buying the 1130 is it was orignally offered with the chopper, and the owner only wants $4900 for it.

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PJBROWN

10-14-2005 17:29:21




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-14-2005 17:12:43  
How did you like the NH 782?? I just got one with a 2 row corn head on it and have not used it yet. I have a old JD 35 that I use now ,but I just got the 782 for a up grade. A 1130 MF is an old work horse!!! They're not too fancy ,but they will work all day long. 4320 will also!!!



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barnrat

10-14-2005 18:57:35




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to PJBROWN, 10-14-2005 17:29:21  
Had the best crop of corn I ever had and it killed my old 770. I like the 782 It's 1000rpm although it sure made that 4020 warm up and blow black smoke.



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Glen in TX

10-14-2005 21:04:38




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-14-2005 18:57:35  
Well funny thing... we use to run a 770 on a 4020 also and later went to a 892 chopper but with only 6 knives. The 4020 was a little lacking for it but later added more knives and putting a 4450 on it was much smoother and faster and had more speeds to pick from too. We always kept the 4320 on the silo blower. Both ran 1000 RPMs.



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barnrat

10-15-2005 04:51:37




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to Glen in TX, 10-14-2005 21:04:38  
Well the engine on the ole 4020 is a bit tired I wanted to redo it last year when I redid the transmission, but the barn also needed a new roof.



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Glen in TX

10-15-2005 09:51:03




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-15-2005 04:51:37  
The other combo deal you mentioned didn't sound like a bad price and would give you time to get the 4020 overhauled. Probably what you had in mind. With more speeds it might make a good chopper tractor too? Blue book shows the 1130 had 12 forward and 4 reverse so a few more to pick from. 4320s would lug though when needed and not hurt them. Our 5010 engine went down one summer and we finished pulling everything with the 4320 but just slower and tires were gone at end of summer but it got the job done and didn't hurt it.

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barnrat

10-15-2005 11:07:01




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to Glen in TX, 10-15-2005 09:51:03  
Well I just got back from trying out the massey 1130 and I have to say that after spending many hours of my youth fitting ground with a 4320, I would have rather used an 1130. It pulled 5 bottoms like they wern't even back there. Besides the 12 speed tranny, and the fact that I can add fuel, check and add fluids change filters and never have to crawl onto or under the tractor is a real plus. I found alot of other things that deere didn't have, to many to list.

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barnrat

10-15-2005 18:59:23




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-15-2005 11:07:01  
So far I plan to. The guy who bought my 830 2cyl is supposed to pickit up and pay for it this week. After I buy the Massey and have enough to get the engine kit and machine shop work paid for on the 4020.



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Glen in TX

10-15-2005 16:23:03




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 Re: 4320 vs 1130 in reply to barnrat, 10-15-2005 11:07:01  
Sounds like you better buy it then. Too far to a MF dealer for me. Good luck.



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