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JD 48 B Carb Pulsing

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48Bboy

07-13-2005 13:47:59




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My 48 B starts great but when the choke is released it pulses constantly. It wont stop until I put the choke on one third of the way. I tried to adjust the needles and that dont seem to make much difference. Any suggestions would be appreciated.




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DW

07-14-2005 08:35:13




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 Re: JD 48 B Carb Pulsing in reply to 48Bboy, 07-13-2005 13:47:59  
Get ahold of Robert's Carburetor Repair at www.robertscarbrepair.com and order the video on dltx carb repair, and the six inch drill bits and do it yourself. I did this to an "A" of mine that ran the same way. Don't forget to order the appropriate gaskets. Good luck.



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CPeter

07-14-2005 04:52:58




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 Re: JD 48 B Carb Pulsing in reply to 48Bboy, 07-13-2005 13:47:59  
I saw Robert's seminar at the EXPO and he makes those carbs very understandable. If you get the tape and the drill bits, you can almost certainly fix any of those carbs. They are not difficult, just very different from an automotive carb.

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Ravgardner

07-14-2005 04:48:00




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 Re: JD 48 B Carb Pulsing in reply to 48Bboy, 07-13-2005 13:47:59  
The pulsing you describe may be caused by too much air entering the combustion chamber. Hence as you choke it, it runs better. Some call this "Surging." The name really doesn't matter that much. But if you run through Pat's tests and the carb passes each, the next step is to look for air entering the manifold through a bad carb/manifold gasket. You can test this by spraying WD-40 on the gasket area as it is running. If it is leaking, the spray will cause the surging to change or stop. There may be better stuff to spray, but thats what I remember right now. Another place air could be leaking is at the base of the manifold. There are a few more things to check after these. This board has several old posts on "Surging." Do a search on that term, also carburetor. Good luck and lets us know if you find the problem. Always looking to learn. Rav.

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Pat Browning

07-13-2005 14:07:34




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 Re: JD 48 B Carb Pulsing in reply to 48Bboy, 07-13-2005 13:47:59  
If what you mean by "pulsing" is that the engine's throttle is kicking forward and aft as the engine tries to keep running, your's is a classic case of a carb having a closure in the idle passage.

Some time back, an older gentleman posted a simple test on the YT Forum -- namely, that you could test your carb's passageways by manipulating the IDLE & LOAD needles. Here is how it goes: CAUTION: This test involves radical adjustment of both the LOAD & IDLE needles. Before starting the engine, observe the position of each needle lever, and count the number of turns OUT that each of the two needles is at so that you can put them back where they were before this test is run. (1) IDLE SYSTEM TEST: With the tractor running at least at half-full engine speed, turn the LOAD needle all the way in. The engine will continue to run if the IDLE SYSTEM is open, and if it stops running, -- the idle system IS NOT open! Assuming this test is a pass, reset the LOAD needle where is was and go on to test two below. (2) LOAD SYSTEM TEST: With the engine running at least at half-full engine speed, turn the IDLE needle all the way in. The engine will continue to run provided the LOAD FUEL system is open, however, in this mode, engine operation will be a throttling pattern. As engine speed drops, the governor will open the throttle to draw LOAD FUEL because the idle path is closed. This pattern, however, indicates the LOAD FUEL channel is open & working as it should. If the engine stops running, the LOAD FUEL channel is blocked.

If the LOAD SYSTEM TEST describes how you tractor is running, then it will probably fail the IDLE SYSTEM TEST.

Now -- if this all turns out to be the revealing truth, go to www.robertscarbrepair.com to make contact with Robert's Carb --could be that you will elect to order the 6-inch long drill bits that are needed to clear those idle passage ways of the rust that forms in cast iron carbs over the years -- or you may elect to let someone else repair your carb. No rocket science here -- just have to do some study and then some work. Let us know how the testing comes out & we can take it from there.

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48Bboy

07-20-2005 07:38:52




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 Re: JD 48 B Carb Pulsing in reply to Pat Browning, 07-13-2005 14:07:34  
Thank you guys for all your comments. I will definately be in touch with Roberts Carb to get this problem resolved. I am hoping to make a few tractor pulls this summer or fall so I am gonna get this taken care of asap.



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