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DanD.

06-21-2005 14:51:56

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My father's old 336 baler conked out on him the other day (it's only 31 years old and has baled about 250,000 bales..shouldn't be causing any trouble yet!). Anyway..looking at newer balers...what's the difference between the 328 and 338 balers. John Deere web site says that the 328 is a lower cost alternative but can't see any real difference in the specifications..i.e bale size, strokes per minute, etc. are the same) What's the difference? When was the 328 first built? Thanks.

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buickanddeere

06-21-2005 23:13:27

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ok what is a 336 vs a 328 vs. 338 baler in reply to DanD., 06-21-2005 14:51:56

Is the 336 an ancestor of the 328, 338 or 348? What model years was the 336 built in? What was the all the various models of Deere balers during 336 production? A slob farmer a few miles away has an abandoned 336 sititng in the yard with 10 year old hay in it. A new JD is sitting outside too but it has bale thrower on it. Just wondering what the baler really is. Before I show up dressed shabby and driving an old junker.

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DanD.

06-22-2005 05:18:54

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Re: ok what is a 336 vs a 328 vs. 338 baler in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2005 23:13:27

I believe there was a 346 baler in production at the same time as the 336, but I may be wrong on that. I don't know what years the 336 was produced but the one here in question was bought new in 1974. THe #40 thrower was added in 1988. (never had a thrower on it before) The 336 is virtually identical to new 328 and 338 balers made today. I've never seen a 348 so can't comment on it. There are some minor differences like wider pickup, heavier knotter frames, larger shaft driving the knotters, different linkage for the tucker fingers, etc. but the main stuff is still the same. Here is a picture of the 336 in question.

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Bimmer

06-21-2005 15:42:24

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what's konked mean in reply to DanD., 06-21-2005 14:51:56

I've never understood what konked out means, as long as a piece of equipment is green and yellow and maintained, bearing replaced on time, oiled and greased regularly, it's almost impossible to wear out, as of yet, I have never seen any piece of equipment that was cared for and kept inside worn out. manure spreaders are always rusted and rotted away, but i'll bet if you washed one out after you were done every day you used it and stored it inside, except for an occasional bering or chain it would look nice for a hundred years. Same with everything else, mo/co's have blades and rollers that'll wear out, but that's expected, and if the rest of the machine is cared for is worth fixing after they have been used that many hours.

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pbutler

06-22-2005 14:43:18

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Re: what's konked mean in reply to Bimmer, 06-21-2005 15:42:24

I would take it to usually mean more cost to repair than to replace with newer or better.

Anything can be repaired.

Then again is it worth replacing $3,000 worth of paper thin sheetmetal on an old combine that can be purchased for $500? Probably not unless just want a project or some sentimental value.

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DanD.

06-21-2005 21:03:45

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Re: what's konked mean in reply to Bimmer, 06-21-2005 15:42:24

Well, as I said in my earlier post, the baler is 31 years old and has baled at least 250,000 bales. I personally operated it all day Sunday and it never missed a bale except for when the balls of twine switched once it missed a bale. These are real bales, too...not the balls of loose hay wrapped with twine that I see a lot of guys make. I hardly think lack of maintainence is an issue here. What happened is that there was a stick in the windrow of hay and it went into the baler. Now the knife on the plunger tries to go to the outside of the stationary knife. The plunger stops quite abruptly under these conditions. There is a lot of hay cut and ready to be baled. Unfortunately there is not a lot of time to work on the old baler. THe John Deere dealer doesn't know what's wrong with it right now. Even if it would only need the new rollers that the plunger runs on we checked with all the John Deere dealers within 50 miles and none have them in stock.

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Bimmer

06-22-2005 20:49:01

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Re: what's konked mean in reply to DanD., 06-21-2005 21:03:45

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like you didn't keep up your equipment, I see what you mean, but the way I am usually causes me to do all in my power to fix rather then to buy someone else's problem.

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RogerD.

06-21-2005 20:14:41

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Re: what's konked mean in reply to Bimmer, 06-21-2005 15:42:24

So if it's green and yellow and maintained it can never wear out huh? What if it's red orange or blue and maintained?

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Bimmer

06-22-2005 20:40:41

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Re: what's konked mean in reply to RogerD., 06-21-2005 20:14:41

Old farm equipment was built and although i'm partial to green and yellow, it's all gonna last a darn long time if taken care of.

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j cook (iowa)

06-21-2005 15:12:52

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Re: 328 vs. 338 baler in reply to DanD., 06-21-2005 14:51:56

the differences are:
328 has 104 teeth, on 4 bars.
338 has 156 teeth, on 6 bars.

Auger length on 328 is 1300mm.
Auger length on 338 is 1550mm.

328 has a cat 3 pto shaft.
228 has a cat 4 pto shaft.

Tires on 328 are 5.90-15 and 6.40-15.
Tires on 338 are 26x12.00-12 and 11L-14.

328 length with bale chute and 2 joint hitch is 198"
338 length with bale chute and 3 joint hitch is 227"

328 minimum weight is 2441 lb, maxumum 2728lb.
338 minimum weight is 2805 lb, maximum 2972lb.

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DanD.

06-21-2005 21:13:54

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Re: 328 vs. 338 baler in reply to j cook (iowa), 06-21-2005 15:12:52

Thank you for the reply.

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