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Rattle from fan shaft on 50 A

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02-24-2004 17:23:28




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My 50 JD A has a very distinct rattle coming from the casing that encloses the fan shaft. Is this normal for this age tractor? The fan turns fine but would like to know if there is anything I can do at this point in time to stop a problem before it occurs. I read the post by Mr Blankenship earlier and it brought this to mind.

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buckeye al

02-25-2004 14:51:49




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 Re: Rattle from fan shaft on 50 A in reply to BB, 02-24-2004 17:23:28  
Nother thing it could be.... is a stuck generator pulley. The splined generator pulley is supposed to float freely along the fan shaft. The spring between the pulley & the fan clutch plus another spring inside the front bearing housing work together to keep the fan shaft bearings tight. The spring inside pushes the whole shaft forward to keep the rear cone tight in the bearing. The front spring between the fan & generator pulley works to push the front bearing's inner cone into the bearing keeping it tight. If all is well the fan shaft runs on spring loaded bearings with zero play at all times. If the pulley is stuck on the shaft it cannot keep the front bearing tight. Once stuck the bearings wear, the shaft runs loose and begins to rattle especially at fast idle. If the inside spring is broken you'll get a similar result.

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Ralph - WI

02-24-2004 21:23:12




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 Re: Rattle from fan shaft on 50 A in reply to BB, 02-24-2004 17:23:28  
Another item to check are the clutch disks that allow the fan to slip under rapid acceleration. One of the clutch disks broke up on my '50 A and it intermitently sounded like the fan was brushing against the radiator or like a bushel of tin cans was being transferred to a dumpster. You might be able to tell by rotating the fan against that clutch. There is no cure other than replacement. I read someplace that on a B, one can wiggle the gov and fan shaft out without removing the hood etc, but I don't think this is possible on the A.

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Clooney

02-24-2004 17:35:29




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 Re: Rattle from fan shaft on 50 A in reply to BB, 02-24-2004 17:23:28  
BB, check the bolts for being tight that hold the front of the fan shaft to the tractor frame & front bracket to the fan shaft.. If those bolts work loose they will allow a pretty pronounced fan tube rattle..

~If it sounds more like it's in the rear & light rattle it could be a failing vent pump..

~There is also a possibility the fan shaft bearings are getting worn & loose..

~Your noise is pretty hard to diagnose over the internet without hearing it...

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