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joshanderson

04-22-2005 14:37:22




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im haveing trouble starting my 520. Theres gas in the carbuatator and its giving off a spark in the spark plugs. but it just wont give a pop or a dang thing when you try it. So I was wondering if anyone can tell me what could be wrong or what to do.




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John Van Valkenburgh

04-22-2005 17:09:43




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 Re: 520 wont fire in reply to joshanderson, 04-22-2005 14:37:22  
Things like this sometimes happen after the tractor has been sitting for a few months or so. You are on the right track. After you tried to start it, what did the plugs look like? Where they wet? If not then gas isn't getting out of the carb (which is pretty common). If the plugs were wet then its possible the spark isn't happening at the right time (not common).

I think your 520 is probably like my 50 in that the choke operates a spring on the carb and this in turn operates the choke plates. Take off the air intake and look at the choke plates. Do they close?

You mentioned that you've got gas in the carb but is it getting fuel from the tank or is what you are seeing just some fuel left in the bottom of the bowl? The bowl should be pretty much full of gas when you pull it. Some systems (I think the 520 included) have a vacuum operated fuel shut-off that keeps gas from getting to the carb if the engine isn't running. These shut-offs can sometimes stick or develop a hole in the diaphram that keeps them from delivering fuel.

If you still don't get anywhere, I'd remove the air intake to the carb and give it a shot of ether. If she fires with ether then its a fuel/carb problem.

If you still don't get anywhere, make sure you are getting compression at the cylinders. If you don't then you've got stuck valves or possibly got a cam problem. This does not happen very often though. If you get a stuck valve, it usually only happens on one cylinder.

Hope this gets you started (no pun intended),
John
1953 Model 50

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MPK

04-23-2005 11:52:24




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 Re: 520 wont fire in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 04-22-2005 17:09:43  
The valve under the gas tank is opened by oil pressure when it runs. You can fill the carb with gas manually before you try to start it by turning a little nut on top of the valve under the tank counterclockwise to raise it about 3/8 inch and then hold it down till the carb is full of gas. Then just turn the nut down to where it was. There is a diaphram in that valve that sometimes has to be replaced.

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John Van Valkenburgh

04-23-2005 21:28:07




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 Re: 520 wont fire in reply to MPK, 04-23-2005 11:52:24  
Oil Pressure! You're right. I keep getting mixed up since my motorcyles use engine vacuum to open a similar valve. Thanks for the correction.

John
1953 Model 50



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