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'50 Model B (Carb Headache!)

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JBM

04-08-2005 09:13:29




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I think I have some sort of carb problem. I am wondering if I might need a rebuilt one. The tractor does not make the normal popping sound when a load is applied-it just lugs down and will lug all the way off very easily. It will barely move its own weight, much less do any work! I thought I might have an intake blockage, but i took the intake pipe leading into the carb off, and ran it for a short time-no better. The only other thing I can think of is that I may have some sort of blockage somewhere-I did find a small pile of some rubbery sealant stuff in the sediment bowl the last time I had it off. I think some could be clogging something up. I have tried adjusting the carb all sorts of ways-no help. Very little smoke comes out of the pipe, no matter what the speed or load may be. And even at full throttle-low rpm, and very little power.
-Lookin for any ideas
-Thanks
-JBM

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F-I-T

04-08-2005 10:02:27




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 Re: '50 Model B (Carb Headache!) in reply to JBM, 04-08-2005 09:13:29  
JBM:

There's a host if things to check, and you'll want to check them from the cheapest and simplest to the toughest and most expensive, that being a rebuild.

All of this assumes that you have the ignition up to snuff, good plugs and wires, the timing set correctly, and a healthy engine (no burned valves, good compression).

First thing would be to open the sediment bowl completely, or even remove it and clean it well, and check that the little screen in the top is not clogged.

Second, move to the carburetor and open the bowl drain and see that you have a pencil sized stream for at least thirty seconds.

Third, I like to check that the governor is working correctly. The control rod from the governor to the carburator throttle plate works such that as you open the throttle and the engine picks up speed the governor tries to push the throttle plate shut, so it achieves a point of equilibrium and the engine runs at a consistent speed. The proper setting is that with the throttle open all the way, disconnect the rod from the carburetor, and with the throttle plate help wide open, the rod dhould be set to be 1/2 to one hole short of making connection. This gives the governor leaf spring a bit of pre-load so that the play is out of the system.

Fourth: With the rod disconnected, run the engine and hold the rod in your right hand and operate the carburetor throttle plate with your left hand. As you speed the engine up you shold feel the rod being forced to move b the governor. If is not, there might be a problem.

This brings us to the carburetor proper. If you have not found an issue with the governor, you'll want to check the float height. 3/4" below the bowl flange will get you close enough to run properly.

Adjust the idle needle at high speed, in until it misses, and then out until it runs smoothly (probably about a turn to turn and a half), and then you can open the load needle a bit under load until you get it to pull nicely. This setting will probably be a turn to turn and a half as well.

Let us know what you find.

Frank

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STOVEPIPE

04-08-2005 09:55:45




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 Re: '50 Model B (Carb Headache!) in reply to JBM, 04-08-2005 09:13:29  
I think your needle and seat aren't letting enough fuel into your carb. The carb is probably full of crud as well. I got all my parts to fix my carb fromm my JD dealer. There's not that much to them, taking it apart and cleaning it may solve your problems. Beware leaking float, that was my problem and I hear it's very common.Apparently gas tank sealer is a good way to fix leaking floats. Good luck.

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