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4520 JD hyds, destroke valve?

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Alvin n Ms.

10-24-2003 09:11:18




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Had been setting up under a shed for about 3 months.Was started up and hyds. won't work. We have changed the two filters on the left side of the transmission. Pump still begs for oil,but not vigorously. help will be greatly appreciated.I started taking the oil supply suction hose off at the pump with the engine running,and after loosen the screw a little the pressure tried to blow the hose off. I didn't expect any pressure.

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there is a trans.pump in your 4520 that supplies oil to the main pump,so if the line you took off has pressure then i doubt the screen is your problem,nor the trans pump.I see you changed both filters ,so i gather your 4520 is a powershift.is the destroke lever on the left side of the dash,pushed forward?someone may have pulled it to the rear.if it doesnt have the lever then possibly the destroke valve is stuck in the pump,or it has been set on destroke.

How can I get the pump destoke unstuck? It has no destroke leaver on the dash and no screen behind the plug near the filters.
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G-MAN

10-24-2003 11:01:47




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 Re: 4520 JD hyds, destroke valve? in reply to Alvin n Ms., 10-24-2003 09:11:18  
Unless your pump has a manual de-stroking screw (located on the top of the hydraulic pump), and you turned it in when you parked it, the destroking screw is not the problem. However, underneath that screw (or plug as the case may be) there is a stroke-control valve in the control block of the pump, that will stick and cause a loss of high-pressure hydraulic oil. It could easily be stuck, which isn't too uncommon on Deeres - some will just up and lose hydraulics while going through the field. On occasion, you can remove the top plug, install a manual destroking screw if it doesn't already have one, and get the stroke control valve freed up by turning in the screw. If that doesn't work, you have to remove the pressure adjusting screw and it's nut from the bottom of the hydraulic pump control block. It should be a internal hex adjusting screw. The stroke control valve is located above that fitting. There are several little pieces in there that have to be stacked in a particular order when reassembling, including a washer, spring, guide and so forth. And it's in a real handy spot to get to. The easiest way is to remove the top plug in the passage and use a piece of wire ran through the center of all the parts. It's still challenge to get everything up in there and get the bottom nut in, but it gets easier the more you do. The stroke control valve will run you around $50. If I were going to the trouble of pulling the old one out to check it, I would go ahead and install the new one. I would also HIGHLY recommend borrowing a service manual, as you will also have to readjust the standby pressure after replacing the vavle. The "destroking lever" he referred to is probably the transmission-disconnect lever that is used to disengage the clutch on the back of the flywheel when cold-starting a powershift New Generation tractor. If the tractor moves, it's working correctly, and your transmission pump is also working correctly. Replacing the stroke control valve isn't terribly difficult, but it does have to be done correctly, so you can post back or email me if you have any questions. Or, you may elect to leave it to the pros. A good tech can have that valve removed and replaced, and you back going in less than an hour.

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twopop

10-24-2003 10:49:29




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 Re: 4520 JD hyds, destroke valve? in reply to Alvin n Ms., 10-24-2003 09:11:18  
when I posted an answer,I was calling the valve the wrong thing.the lever,if your tractor had one would be a destroke lever.The valve is,a stroke control valve.if you turn the front wheels all the way to the right,and get under the front end,and look up thru the front axle support yoke,you will see a set screw and a 3/4 hex nut.loosen the set screw and back it out maybe 10 revolutions,start the tractor and let it run 10 minutes.reset the set screw and see if you have hydraulics.if that doesnt work you will have to remove the valve.the removal is more complicated.

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