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730-LP

01-19-2005 17:18:41




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Has anyone used a air needle scaler to remnove paint and rust on the frame and castings when restoring a tractor? If so how did it do and how long will a set of needles last? Thanks




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Clooney

01-19-2005 17:39:20




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 Re: air needle scaler in reply to 730-LP, 01-19-2005 17:18:41  
730LP, you ask,,

Quote:--� Has anyone used a air needle scaler to remnove paint and rust on the frame and castings when restoring a tractor?

--Yes, I use one (actually I have 2) all the time.. I don�t use it for full frame or engine paint & rust removal.. It would work but it isn�t fast.. I like a chemical paint remover first,, then using a large rotary wire brush on a large right angle grinder to get most of the heavy stuff off.. Then finish up with the needle scalar in the pockets, inside edges, bolt holes, about anyplace the wire brush won�t get.. Those needle scalars do work good but not real good for large areas as the going is slow.. You�ll figure it out when you fire that baby up.. WEAR EYE PROTECTION as those thing throw chips & paint pieces.. I also wear a respirator as it creates a lot of dust from that old lead paint (not good for you)..

Quote:--�If so how did it do and how long will a set of needles last?�

--That depends on how much you use it & on what.. If I use mine a lot I get about 4-5 months on a set but I re-grind the needle ends to be flat so it works better.. If you use it on hardened welds or hard rough steel they will wear much faster..

I think you will find that needle scalar is a great shop addition but not an end all for large paint & rust removal projects..

BTW,, if you haven't bought one yet watch the cheap ones as they can be air eaters & use massive amounts of air CFM.. (that�s why I now have two)..

Clooney

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Navy Chief

01-20-2005 11:24:24




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 Re: air needle scaler in reply to Clooney , 01-19-2005 17:39:20  
Mr. Clooney;
I noticed you stated that you use a chemical to remove paint from large areas before you wire brush or Needle gun. What chemical paint removal system would you suggest? I know of several, but am curious as to what you would recommend. I tried FIT's lye gravy on the Grilles for my new "G" project. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
V/R
Eric



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Duane Larson

01-19-2005 18:37:27




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 Re: air needle scaler in reply to Clooney , 01-19-2005 17:39:20  
730-LP,
I agree with Clooney - I've used one for years - in addition to applications already noted they work great for removing that rubber/rust/paint combination left on wheels and/or rims after old tires are pulled off. Sandblasting doesn't work to well for me on this problem, but the needle scaler just peels the crap off.

Northern sells them for about $40. Also pick up some ear protection as they are LOUD, especially working rims. More comments re needle scalers can be found in the archives.

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Deeredale

01-19-2005 19:05:47




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 Re: air needle scaler in reply to Duane Larson, 01-19-2005 18:37:27  
We use ours on engine & mechanical parts where we don't want sand to get to. I think they work great. We had a cheap one for about 2 months & toasted it. We now have one made by IR. It is still made over seas but is a much better tool. We have had it for better then 2 years & have not had any problems out of it.

It can be a slow process on large parts but a real speed demon in those tight areas where nothing else will get to. They are perfect in between fins of an air cooled engines etc.

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