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730 gas high altitude

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Ken M

01-09-2005 13:21:31




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I have a 730 gas that came from Colorado. It is now in central MN. It only wants to start when the throttle is at idle and choked. Once it gets started I cam nurse the throttle ahead and it will slowly get going. Is this something to do with high altitude? I only find gas or all-fuel carbs listed in the parts book. It doesn't smoke but haven't checked compression.




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Ken M

01-09-2005 16:28:58




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 Re: 730 gas high altitude in reply to Ken M, 01-09-2005 13:21:31  
Thanks for the info. I'll check out the carb.



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Clooney

01-09-2005 14:35:49




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 Re: 730 gas high altitude in reply to Ken M, 01-09-2005 13:21:31  
Ken, your problem doesn't really sound like it has anything to do with high altitude pistons.. It sounds more like a carb problem with it�s mid range or choke..

You might want to check that the choke plates are closing ALL THE WAY TIGHT & that the choke disks aren�t bent.

You could also try opening the carb�s load needle a turn or so more (on bottom center of the carb inside the bowl nut)..

A lot of the old Deere�s do start better at low throttle settings or at idle so that is about normal�

I suppose it�s also possible you have a compression problem at cranking speeds due to worn rings or excess ring side clearance to the piston ring lands� Low cranking compression usually likes a closed throttle to start as it can not draw in enough air at a decent speed to pick up fuel with the throttle plates open very far.. Might not hurt to do a cold cranking compression test�

First guess is that it is probably a choke problem though..

Clooney

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Clooney (More On Carb)

01-09-2005 15:01:12




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 Re: 730 gas high altitude in reply to Clooney , 01-09-2005 14:35:49  
Ken, I should have mentioned in the first response..

If that tractor was used at high altitude to farm with it�s possible the load needle might be set on the lean side for your area..

To check-- get the tractor hot,,,, then put it in 3rd or 4th gear & idle it down the lane at slow idle,,,, then quickly advance the hand throttle to wide open.. If the engine won�t take the throttle smoothly, or backfires, or acts lean, start opening the carb load needle � turn more at a time until it will take the throttle smoothly.. That should leave you just slightly on the rich side but they seem to run best right there. Then see if it starts better also..

Clooney

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buickanddeere

01-09-2005 16:24:34




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 Re: 730 gas high altitude in reply to Clooney (More On Carb), 01-09-2005 15:01:12  
Maybe the idle needles are a little lean? I've tinkered around and found they will idle fine and run clean at about 1/2 to 3/4 turn if memory serves rather than rich at "smoothest idle at about 1-1/2 turns. Had to open the idle screws up a bit to get rid of the off idle bog until the main jets got flowing. Both 50's the 60 & 70 seem to act about the same. Didn't somebody here use a different method than what the manual instructs for float level adjustment or height?

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