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jtedescucci

12-30-2004 23:39:25




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Could someone please explain to me exactly what a "tank heater" is?? And, while you're at it - please tell me what a "circulating heater" is too. I made the mistake of buying a "lower radiator hose heater" for my 2010 & then discovered there was NO ROOM in there to install it. Am now looking to get something else to do the job... THANKS




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Bob

12-31-2004 00:34:51




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 Re: engine heaters in reply to jtedescucci, 12-30-2004 23:39:25  
A "tank heater" and a "circulating heater" are more or less the same thing, the different names being ad copywriters' B.S. and advertising "hype".

The bottom line is that they are a small tank with an electric heater inside that circulate heated coolant through the engine block by thermosyphon action. (Read that "hot stuff rises".)

You plumb the heater so the bottom line connects to the bottom of the water jacket (usually the drain plug tapping), and the top "outlet" line connects to a tapping in the head, or the upper water fitting area, below the thermostat.

The heater heats the coolant, and the heated coolant rises to the upper engine area, and is replaced by cold coolant from the bottom of the block. As this flow of heated coolant continues for a couple of hours, the engine block is toasty warm.

The link below is to Phillips-Temro, one of the largest makers of engine heaters. It takes a little time to drill down through the menus, but there's a wealth of heater information there.

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jtedescucci

12-31-2004 06:25:48




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 Re: engine heaters in reply to Bob, 12-31-2004 00:34:51  
Thanks Bob... I appreciate the info. Just one more question: Do any of these heater types provide FORCED circulation? i.e., some sort of pump forcing the heated coolant through the system? Thanks again.....

Fred



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Bob

12-31-2004 08:20:00




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 Re: engine heaters in reply to jtedescucci, 12-31-2004 06:25:48  
There are heaters for heavy truck diesels, for example, that use an electric pump. Seems to me there should be some info and the site I linked.

Those big suckers would be WAY overkill for a 2010.

You'll be surprised how quick just the ordinary tank heater will warm the engine. It will circulate more than you think!

Go to the Temro site, and click on the "data sheets" button, and you can look at the circulation/tank heaters.

I have a 4020 with a plain 1000 Watt tank heater, and it's warm enough to start in a couple of hours at -20.

A 750 Watt unit would likely be more than enough for the 2010.

If it's real cold, and it's outside in the wind, throwing at tarp over the hood and grille area will help it heat up a lot faster.

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