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3010 3 pt question

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Kas

10-05-2004 21:44:27




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Hello. I hope someone here can help. I apologize in advance for not knowing the proper names of parts. I'm having trouble with the 3pt on my husband's tractor. He is disabled and unable to advise me on this.

The 3pt won't move if I use the control arm, but if I disconnect the cable, I can move the little arm at the back of the tractor that the cable connects to and the arms will raise and lower. The cable was replaced a couple years ago. This tractor is used lightly, mainly for putting round bales out or snow removal with a backblade. It's a 3010 gas, if that makes any difference.

One thing I noticed is that when I'm standing at the back of the tractor, the cable disconnected, and manually move that little lever so the arms of the 3pt are all the way down...and then move it so that it raises the arms ...that I have to move it quite a ways before it starts to raise the arms. Is that normal? When I move the lever to lower the arms there is no 'play' in it. When I move it to lift the arms it seems there is no resistance at all...until I move it about 2 inches or so.

When I watch the end of the cable when it's all connected, I can see that it moves in and out, so it's not that the cable is broken.

What sorts of things could be wrong?

Thanks for any suggestions. As you can tell, I'm not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. :-) Just trying to get the back blade functioning before winter hits.

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msb

10-06-2004 20:09:21




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 Re: 3010 3 pt question in reply to Kas, 10-05-2004 21:44:27  
Sounds like the cam follower on the rockshaft needs adjusting.If you want to try fixing yourself, get a socket extension at least 15" long and firmly tape a 9/16" socket to it.Then remove the plug(usually a 1/2" square hole in the plug) at the rear of the tractor,just above the PTO shield and a few inches to the right of centerline.Set the L&D in the center position and the front edge of the 3 pt.lever on 4(on the decal).Then reach in the bung hole(sorry for the name but that is what they have been called for 45 years)There is a 9/16' nut in the hole(get a flashlight and take a look).Put the socket on the nut and push in a little bit to disengage the nut from the roll pin.With the engine running(I forgot to mention that until now)slowly turn the nut counterclockwise until the rockshaft arms just begin to raise.That nut is a castle nut and you may have to turn it slightly for a slot in the nut to line up with the roll pin that holds it in place.You will feel it lock in place.
Now go around and raise the rockshaft all the way up.Let it set a moment the then very slowly lower the lever until the arms just begin to drop.Ideally that should be when the front edge of the lever is on 1.Lower the rockskshaft all the way down and check to see where the arms begin to raise.If the raise and lower points are closer that 1 and 4 ,split the difference.(i.e. 1 1/2 & 3 1/2)
I will caution you one more time: FIRMLY tape the socket.If you lose it inside the transmission case, you are looking at a major,major recovery job.That is why I welded my socket to a 3/8" rod way back in 1964.Good luck,bob

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msb

10-06-2004 20:14:45




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 Forgot to mention in reply to msb, 10-06-2004 20:09:21  
Before you try adjusting the cam follower,check to see if the 3 pt.arms come all the way up when the L&D lever is set in D.Lift them to see.If you can lift them more that an inch or so,adjust the cable so the arms come all the way up.



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Kas

10-07-2004 12:21:17




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 Re: Forgot to mention in reply to msb, 10-06-2004 20:14:45  
Thanks so much! You folks are a wealth of information. :-)

Kas



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Kas

10-06-2004 11:36:03




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 Re: 3010 3 pt question in reply to Kas, 10-05-2004 21:44:27  
The JD dealership suggested making sure the draft control was in the proper position, which I checked. The cable appears to be working properly and is seated as it should be.

That it would need an internal adjustment makes sense to me. Feels a bit sloppy to me when I manually move that little lever on the side of the rockshaft cover. I have a manual. Not sure if this is something I can tackle myself or not. Probably best to have a tech out.

Thanks for the input. I'm learning. Hey, at least now I know that 'box thingy' is a rockshaft cover. :-)

Kas (who has a secret desire to be a tractor mechanic)

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JMS/MN

10-06-2004 13:19:13




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 Re: 3010 3 pt question in reply to Kas, 10-06-2004 11:36:03  
You say you have a manual- that is a good start. A lot of tractor owners don't bother with that. There are three basic manuals with most tractors. OPERATOR is the most basic- ID's the tractor controls and tells you what you need to know to operate the tractor and make simple adjustments, hookups, etc. SERVICE manual tells how to dismantle and fix the tractor. PARTS shows all parts as well as their relatiionship to one another. If you are far from a dealer it is good to have a parts manual so when you do a tear down and know what you need, you can call the guy at the counter and tell him just what you want to order. If you are close to a dealer, just get the operator and service manual. When you go to him, just describe what you need.

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JMS/MN

10-06-2004 09:40:46




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 Re: 3010 3 pt question in reply to Kas, 10-05-2004 21:44:27  
The good news is that your system still works. I think the bad news is in the adjustment. Something let go. Could be what twopop says. The cable needs to be anchored properly, at each end. There is also adjustment at either one or both ends, regarding cable travel. Last resort is internal adjustment. I assume your 3010 is similar to what is in the 3020 parts manual- inside the rockshaft casting, connected to your external linkage, are a couple of half gears and a bevel gear between them. As they wear they get a bit sloppy, and perhaps a too-quick lever movement causes them to slip a cog or two. Your tractor is 40 years old, and stuff wears out. A JD tech reset one of my tractors years ago, so without a parts or service manual, you are better off to get more advice. I think this stuff is on the inside of a two-inch plug on the right side of the rockshaft cover, but without a pix.....Another thought was that the keeper that holds the bevel gear in place is gone, but then your system would not work. I think it's in cable adjustment or resetting the half-gears.

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twopop

10-06-2004 07:39:34




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 Re: 3010 3 pt question in reply to Kas, 10-05-2004 21:44:27  
the only thing i can suggest is,check the cable clamp,under the dash to see if it has come loose.if it has,the inside of the cable,wont move the proper distance to operate the arms.



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