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Model B sliding gear shaft in transmission

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Ken Tabor

08-30-2004 17:14:18




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There is a small bearing cover on the right side of the transmission, just rearward of the belt pully apparatus. Beneath this bearing cover is a caged ball bearing and a small shaft. On page 33 of my manual figure JD126 of the series B trans. pre 201000, this would be shaft D and gear 12 (sliding gear shaft drive gear). My question is: When I grab the end of the shaft beneath the bearing cover, I can slide the shaft itself in and out at least 3/16 of an inch. The castle nut is on the shaft too deep, and the cotterpin wasn't engaging the nut. There are at least 8 thin washers beneth the nut. I would assume the gear lash may be set with this nut and washers, but can't see that there is any way that there should be so much play in the shaft. Would something deeper be missing or worn out to cause this play or did the nut loosen? (the nut is still very deep on the threading). Might this cause the trans to jump out of 6th gear going downhill? Hope this makes sense Responses appreciated. I am definetly not a transmission person.
Ken Tabor

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Clooney

08-31-2004 04:06:23




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 Re: Model B sliding gear shaft in transmission in reply to Ken Tabor, 08-30-2004 17:14:18  
Ken, that is the input shaft outer bearing.

That outer bearing is trapped in the 1st reduction cover between the little outer cover & a snap ring or between 2 snap rings [I believe 2 snap rings on the B but can�t remember for sure] {your book should show it}..

It sure sounds like you are either missing a bearing retaining snap ring, or the spacer between the little outer bearing & reduction gear is missing, or the 1st reduction cover bearing hole is worn oblong [rather common], or the big reduction gear splines are worn & allowing the shaft to pull into the gear too far..

That input shaft is allowed to float [slide] in the inner bearing & the only thing that holds that input shaft from moving in & out [like yours is] is that outer small bearing locked tight in the reduction cover & that outer nut pinching the bearing between the nut & the big reduction gear & spacer. Basically that little outer bearing keeps the shaft in place & from moving in & out.

That stack of washers is not correct & there is no gear lash or engagement to be set inside the transmission. That input shaft inner gear is not depth sensitive but the high/low shifter sliding gear is quite gear position sensitive as the engagement teeth are very short .

Depending on what is jumping out of engagement when in 6 th gear that outer worn bearing or missing snap ring could easily be causing the problem..

You need to find out WHY that outer bearing isn�t staying tight & why that input shaft has all those washers on it that don�t belong there.
If you can�t find anything obvious you might have to pull the 1st reduction cover & see if the big reduction gear inner splines are worn & pulling onto the input shaft too far or if the spacer between the gear & bearing is missing..

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Ken Tabor

08-31-2004 07:02:46




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 Re: Model B sliding gear shaft in transmission in reply to Clooney, 08-31-2004 04:06:23  

I did go back out after my post and looked again and did notice that the shaft is moving with the bearing. I guess I will have to disassemble further and see if the deeper snap ring is missing.
Thanks



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