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What do I need to make the 3 pt lift?

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barryinmn

08-19-2004 22:07:35




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JD A has been pulling a tow behind Gyramor with lift cylinder. I'd like to get the 3pt to work - preferably have both 3pt & remote capability as I have a 1 way dump wagon as well.

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barryinmn

08-19-2004 22:10:03




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 Re: What do I need to make the 3 pt lift? in reply to barryinmn, 08-19-2004 22:07:35  
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2nd post wider view.



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gus

08-20-2004 12:54:12




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 Re: What do I need to make the 3 pt lift? in reply to barryinmn, 08-19-2004 22:10:03  
If you post your email address or tell me how to post a photo hers I will send you a photo of my 60 setup. I have not yet figured out how to post photos to the forum, nothing I do works!! It was installed when I got it but I had to lower the top link hookup because it would lower the back of the bush hog instead of lifting it when I raised the rock shaft.

The best I can tell from your photo, after you make the hydraulic shaft change per Clooney, all you need is the top link hookup.

What is that thing on the end of the adjustable arms hooked to the back of the seat?

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barryinmn

08-20-2004 17:14:42




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 Re: What do I need to make the 3 pt lift? in reply to gus, 08-20-2004 12:54:12  
There is a pin (handy storage) thru the 3pt top link. I assumed it is an old style top link as it fits into a slot in a JD 3pt 3 bottom plow.

To post a pix it is a two step process.
1. go to photobucket.com & set up account. Up load pixes into this account. Click on URL to highlight address info of desired pix to send & mouse click copy.
2. Go back to YTMAG window & type message in box. Below box is Optional Link URL: paste the photobucket.com address copied from item 1. Click submit & pix magically appears!

Photobucket is slick & logs you in automatically the second time through.

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gus

08-20-2004 20:18:16




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 Re: What do I need to make the 3 pt lift? in reply to barryinmn, 08-20-2004 17:14:42  
Barry,

All that sounds complicated to me. It is so easy to send you a photo via email from my digital camera, all I need is your email address. I'll also send you the vertical measurement from the top to bottom links. This caused me a lot of grief until I changed mine.

If you don't want to publish it write it like this example (barryATaolDOTcom). I can understand it but the phishing programs used by spammers can't.

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Clooney

08-20-2004 04:24:09




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 Re: What do I need to make the 3 pt lift? in reply to barryinmn, 08-19-2004 22:10:03  
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barryinmn, to get the tractor 3-point to work you need to remove the two rear hose outlet fittings [the entire Pioneer fitting & the adapter under it] then install open front plugs in the outlet holes� To get the remotes to work with less work on the changeover you can install the Pioneer quick disconnect fitting in the those two R/H side plugged holes on the P/T box then install a Selector valve [or valves] in the rear outlet ports to allow a selection of 3-point or remote use.. Using the side plugged holes works better for a one way remote but can be made to work as a 2 way if the 3-point is chained down or you use 2 selector valves.

On that system you have there you can�t use the rockshaft [3-point] at the exact same time as the remotes due to the same lever & internal valving used for both..

Basically open front rear plugs allow the rockshaft to operate & closed front rear adapter plugs allow the remote to operate. The closed front plugs close off the tractor rockshaft cylinder from the hydraulic system so the oil goes to the remotes.. If the front of the plugs aren�t closed off the tractor rockshaft will try to operate at the same time as the remote cylinder & the remote cylinder won�t move until the rockshaft has fully rotated.. You will also probably need to readjust the Power/Trol metering valve screw for the switch from rockshaft to remote cylinder to allow the rockshaft to operate at a slower speed..

If you have an owners manual [you really should] that will explain how to change from remote cylinder to on tractor rockshaft operation & how to set metering valve & throttle valve for rockshaft operation..

Any questions just post back..

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barryinmn

08-20-2004 17:01:05




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 Re: What do I need to make the 3 pt lift? in reply to Clooney, 08-20-2004 04:24:09  
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I have an original owners manual - does not configure power trol.

Also bought the I&T manual but is pretty worthless. I replaced the gas tank, the head (cracked) exhaust pipe, rebuilt the generator wired up the lights changed the oils, new seat, scrounged the 3 point parts & installed them.

Bar hanging off the rear seat is the top 3 point - it fits into a JD 3pt 3 bottom plow top link perfectly.

The lower lift arms are chained to the drawbar.

I have a 1 way cylinder dump cart along with a Gyramor pull behind bush hog with a 2 way cylinder so would like the quick flexability of 3pt or remote. I still use a ratchet for other stuff.

Do you have a pix of the open front plugs & valve assy?

The plugs are probably around here somewhere I just have no idea what they look like.

The tractor was my Uncles been on the farm since late 60's. I grew up around it but never really messed with it till now.

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