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Building a belt dyno

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JohnDeere2Cylinder

08-06-2004 12:48:13




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I am planning on building a belt dyno. I have access to a 540/1000 rpm M&W dyno that uses a power take off. Please point me in the right direction.

I am going to take the front off an old threshing machine with the belt pulley, pulley guides, heavy round shaft, and enough framework to make it stand on its own. Then I plan on welding on a three point hitch so I can move it with a big tractor and to keep it stable when I am using it. On the opposite end of the heavy round shaft, I plan on welding a PTO shaft from an old tractor.

I will park this unit at a 90 degree angle to the PTO dyno, connect the PTO to my unit, use my old threshing machine 100 ft endless belt, and try to read the horsepower on the dyno.

I know that my JD G has a rated RPM of 975 with a 12.75 inch pulley. The pulley on the threshing machine is almost exactly the same size. If I read the M&W dyno scale at 1000 RPM, will I get an accurate HP result?

Will the three point hookup plus having the unit rest on the ground give me enough stability to avoid a sine wave in the belt?

Please give me some pointers. Thanks alot. I am asking this question on the JD site because the smartest people read this forum.

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moline

08-06-2004 19:48:23




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 Re: Building a belt dyno in reply to JohnDeere2Cylinder, 08-06-2004 12:48:13  
Actually a M&W dyno doesnt care how fast you run it.They have a circular (flow chart) that compute the RPM by the pressure and will give you a very accurate reading.We tested an A John Deere this year at our club.First we ran it on the belt with a jackshaft like you are describing,then we ran it off the pto.Using the same dyno,we got 31 on the belt and 32 on the pto.RPM difference was somewhere around 70 RPM if I remember correctly.Ob viously our pulley diameter is off,but that is the beauty of the old M&W units.If the pulley size is not correct you cannot direct read your hp off of the guage,you must use the chart.
The M&W dyno uses a hydraulic pump hooked to the pto shaft.The hand wheel turns a pintle valve into the oil stream from the pump.The more you turn the wheel the more restriction is put on the flow taking moreHP to turn the pump.The flow chart makes a mathematical calculation between rpm and psi to determine hp.Hope this helps!

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Mike Aylward

08-06-2004 17:11:22




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 Re: Building a belt dyno in reply to JohnDeere2Cylinder, 08-06-2004 12:48:13  
What you are planning is very similar to what I made for myself. I used the main shaft of an old Art's Way grinder mixer. I had a piece of steel rolled to fit over the large mill drive pulley. I mounted the shaft and bearings 90 degrees to the line of travel and welded a 540 pto stub to the shaft to drive the dyno, along with a drawbar to hook up the dyno hitch. I made a free standing frame to make it easier to hook up to the quick hitch on the tractor 3-point hitch. I lower the unit to the ground once I am "situated" and then roll the dyno to the drawbar. I usually have this mechanism hooked to a pretty heavy tractor so it won't roll or scoot when the belt is tightened. I made this to load my 60 pulling tractor that I removed the pto from. When I have the 60 at rated speed the input shaft of the dyno reads right at 540 rpm. It works very well. I do want to add some belt guides to the unit to keep the belt from flying off when you move the tractor forward to loosen the belt. A longer belt will work better because it doesn't have to be as tight as a short one does. A longer belt's weight helps keep it tight. M&W actually offered a factory attachment for their dynos that was similar to this. Sounds like you are on the right track. Mike

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