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Beanie

07-30-2004 05:42:45




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I posted yesterday about fuel problem on pony motor. I have good fuel feed from tank to shut off valve but going though the presurevalve where your diaphrams is to carb is where it seem to be the problem . but some times it will run and some times it wont. I checked the drain plug at bottom of carb bowl and some times there is gas and some times there no gas drip.




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carpenter

07-30-2004 09:34:55




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 Re: 720 pony motor in reply to Beanie, 07-30-2004 05:42:45  
Beanie: My 730 has simaler simptoms. I have washed the tank including replacing the screen in the sediment bowl. New fuel line. Disasembled diaphram shutoff cleaned and confirmed to be operating properly. Rebuilt carb. The simptoms of not getting fuel periodically persist. If I get on a ladder,reach in and hold the diaphram button in and pressurize tank by blowing in it that almost always does the trick. I replaced the oil pressure switch for the red dash jewal light with a oil pressure gauge and found very little if any oil pressure at cranking speads and only ten pounds when running at fast idle.
I am convinced my starting problem is that the diaphram does not have enough oil pressure to open and supply fuel. My pony runs great with no smoking. I am going to run a wire down the copper oil line and turn up the oil pressure and try straight 30 oil before I open pony moter.
Hope my trials with the pony give you some insight.

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Clooney

07-30-2004 05:59:35




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 Re: 720 pony motor in reply to Beanie, 07-30-2004 05:42:45  
Beanie, it sounds like you might have a problem with the oil pressure controlled shut-off.. See if unscrewing the knurled nut on the side of fuel shut-off then holding it down helps the fuel flow to the carb.. OR, use some tubing & fittings to by-pass the auto fuel shut-off & see if it then gets a good continuous flow to the carb..

You might have to pull that "auto-fuel-shut-off" back out & do a bench test to find the problem.. Low oil pressure can also cause it to not open correctly..

Other thoughts:

If the carb is allowing all the fuel to drain off after pony shut-down it will have to be cranked over for an extended time to allow oil pressure to build before fuel will start flowing..

If you shut the manual shut-off down & allow the carb to run dry you will have the same effect as low oil pressure & have excess cranking time to get initial fuel flow.

If the fuel tank is allowed to run low the fuel height in the tank won�t be high enough to force fuel up & past the oil pressure shut-off.. Make sure that tank is always full before starting.. Try cupping your hand over the fuel door tank filler & blowing into the tank to pressurize it slightly before starting [if that helps you will have to figure out where the [slight] restriction is occurring].

With that fuel tank being at about carb height the fuel flow to that carb is marginal even when the system is functioning correctly..

Let us know what you find?

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