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40S starter spinning w/o crank: removing starter?

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john

07-29-2004 17:25:20




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Hello, all.

I've been using an old 40S with bushhogging, hauling, and disking. The last few times, though, we've had to push-
start it. Suddenly, a day after working fine, on ignition the starter whirred and spun but there was no audible connection with the engine, no cranking at all. I suspect something wrong with "power train" between starter and cylinders? I tried to remove the starter, but am faced with an unusal bolt: an "allen key" head turning inside a larger, standard hexagonal bolt. Here's the immediate question: do they both turn the same way?

More generally: ideas about what could be wrong, and how to get it working again?

Thanks!
john.

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Clooney

07-29-2004 17:34:31




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 Re: 40S starter spinning w/o crank: removing start in reply to john, 07-29-2004 17:25:20  
John, that starter should be held in with a 5/8" set screw & that nut on it is a lock nut. First loosen the lock nut, then the set screw should screw right out.. Both turn the same direction [lefty loosey]..

On your starter problem.. You will know more when you get it out but the usual problem is a broken starter drive [bendix].. Those 40�s are also noted for taking the teeth off the flywheel but it usually grinds when that happens..

Pull the starter out then post back once you find the problem & we can help you repair it..

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Ray

07-29-2004 19:31:16




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 Gee,didn't I just say that??? in reply to Clooney , 07-29-2004 17:34:31  
Gee



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Ralph

07-30-2004 11:02:21




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 Re: Gee,didn't I just say that??? in reply to Ray, 07-29-2004 19:31:16  
Re: Gee,didn't I just say that???
If you look at the posting times Clooney was saying about the same thing at about the same time, unaware that you were posting.



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Ray

07-29-2004 17:32:43




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 Re: 40S starter spinning w/o crank: removing start in reply to john, 07-29-2004 17:25:20  
The starter is probably stuck,they get that way
sometimes from setting and moisture collecting
over the years.Sometimes a whack with a hammer
will help,but usually just temporary.You can remove the starter buy turning the nut to the left,it's just a lock nut,then back out the screw
all the way.It might just need cleaned up a little.Also the solenoid on the starter might not
be making connection properly,but if the starter
is turning the starter drive is probably stuck.

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buickanddeere

07-30-2004 08:40:47




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 Re: 40S starter spinning w/o crank: removing start in reply to Ray, 07-29-2004 17:32:43  
It's more of a hand operated mechanical switch than an electrically operated solenoid. It does sound like a stuck bendix drive.



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