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Swinging Drawbar Usage

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720Deere

06-16-2004 11:25:43




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What kind of work does one do that requires the drawbar to swing free? I have heard of people plowing with a free swinging drawbar, but it's not all that common around here. We mostly row crop farm in MD.

The reason that I ask is that the drawbar on my brother's 80 is worn nearly in half from swinging back and forth under a pretty heavy load. Even the drawbar support has quite a bit of wear from this. Judging from the wear on the drawbar, I would guess that this tractor has done some seriously heavy pulling in it's lifetime.

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Mike M

06-17-2004 12:09:34




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 Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to 720Deere, 06-16-2004 11:25:43  
I used my JD 50 on a disk and a cultimultcher to work up a small plot. You can turn so much easier with the drawbar swinging in these conditions.



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zane

06-16-2004 17:41:30




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 Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to 720Deere, 06-16-2004 11:25:43  
The swinging drawbar tended to moderate the lateral torque (strain) on the tractor's drawbar during turns with drawn tools. To appreciate the effect, imagine the tractor with a stiff drawbar extending all the way back to the nose of the plow.

Such lateral flexibility is not an option on integral tools that must be raised for transport and for turning at the end of the row. The price paid is hardware sufficiently sturdy to withstand the sideways torque.

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Jon

06-16-2004 17:26:21




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 Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to 720Deere, 06-16-2004 11:25:43  
We used to shift the drawbar all the way to the right when plowing with a double bottom trailer plow. Like Stan, we would let it float, or swing when harrowing. Other than that, it was pinned in the center position for just about everything else.



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Stan - Florida

06-17-2004 05:51:51




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 Re: Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to Jon, 06-16-2004 17:26:21  
Jon,

Just curious...did you have your rear wheels moved all the way in? I know on our John Deeres we couldn let the drawbar swing because the tread would be narrow enough to afford a straight draft with a two-bottom plow without pinning the drawbar. Later, with a three-bottom plow, we would move the wheels out a few inches to get that straight draft.

I hope my memory hasn't failed me here, but that's how I remember it from 50 years ago.

Stan

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Jon

06-17-2004 08:39:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to Stan - Florida, 06-17-2004 05:51:51  
Actually, I must admit that the tractor we plowed with was a Farmall C, in the 1960's, and not a JD. (Don't worry, I have about a dozen John Deeres now...to the south of you in Englewood Fl.) But the plowing we did is on the farm in Ct. which my brother still runs but now uses a much larger tractor. I dont recall any changes to the wheel spacing on the Farmall, but had to shove the drawbar all the way to the right in order for the little 2-12" trailer plow to follow correctly. Feel free to e-mail me at [email protected] anytime.

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Stan - Florida

06-17-2004 11:18:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to Jon, 06-17-2004 08:39:49  
Jon,

Nothing wrong with a Farmall C...they even used to do tractor square dances with them at the state fairs in the early '50s (maybe it was Super Cs, I don't remember for sure). Unless your wheels were switched from side to side the rear tread would probably have been too wide to keep the drawbar in the middle. Our JDs had a 56" tread with when set all the way in, and a 2-14" plow cut half that much.

Best regards,

Stan

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Stan - Florida

06-16-2004 13:07:50




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 Re: Swinging Drawbar Usage in reply to 720Deere, 06-16-2004 11:25:43  
Well, back in the '40s and '50s, we let the drawbar swing free while plowing from the outside in toward the center. Of course, we had to make several cuts to round out the corners at first, but Dad claimed it made the tractor easier to steer in the corners, and I think it probably did. This was with a B and an A, both pulling 2-14s, so I don't have any idea how it would work with an 80 and a big plow.

Also, we let the drawbar swing free when disking the first time over, especially when disking from the outside in as mentioned above.

Stan

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