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3-point on JD A (Saftey)

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BB

06-02-2004 18:46:16




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I have put my 3-point hitch(800 series) on my 50 JD A. I know that John Deere did not recommend using this on the A but what implements would be safe to use with the 3-point. The A is awful light on the front end and I sure dont want to get hurt using it. Thanks.

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Dean Van Peursem

06-05-2004 00:02:10




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 Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to BB, 06-02-2004 18:46:16  
JD did not recommend using a 800 series hitch on the A for at least two reasons:
1.) Lightness of the front end
2.) Lift capacity of the Power-Trol

Using light implements that are close to the rear wheel axle centerline are probably ok using common sense. But I can assure you using a model 813 or 810 three bottom plow would be over doing it badly. For both reasons because of the light front end and the lift capacity.

The 800 Series hitches are good hitches and can be used safely on the A, B, G, 50, 60 & 70 with moderation. However, JD only blessed them on the G and the early numbered series. The G never went to the pressed steel frame and the early numbered series had optional two piece front frame weights and then later three piece versions.

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Clooney

06-03-2004 03:57:09




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 Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to BB, 06-02-2004 18:46:16  
BB, you ask..

Quote: "I have put my 3-point hitch(800 series) on my 50 JD A. I know that John Deere did not recommend using this on the A but what implements would be safe to use with the 3-point" >>>

BB, about anything you feel safe driving around with the implement in the raised position. Obviously it the tractor front end bounces off the ground or you can�t turn then it shouldn�t be used..

~Other than the obvious weight on the rear concern & the limited lower hitch attachment point weakness those early tractors had a habit of blowing out the rockshaft cylinder base gasket if something heavy was used on a 3-point then a big bump or dip was hit with the weight in the lifted position.. The weight would bounce up then come down so fast the pressure would build faster than the relief valve could react so it would blow the gasket.

~I have been using 3-points on those old A�s for years & if due care & caution is used you won�t have problems. The actual weight limit is effected by how far the weight is positioned from the rear of the tractor so the farther it sticks out the rear the less weight it can handle..

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havvey

06-03-2004 03:08:21




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 Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to BB, 06-02-2004 18:46:16  
i ran an aftermarket 3 pth on a and b we loaded them hard never had any problems with resonable common sence. I would be more cautious on a narrow frount.



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grampa lee

06-03-2004 19:44:55




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 Re: Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to havvey, 06-03-2004 03:08:21  
My friend had a J.D.-A 1952. It had the 800 hitch on it ,With 3- bottom mounted plow on it. the tractor had front weights on it, plus the front huds were extra heavy in weight and width. He did not like the extra width of the front wheels. "Only about 3- inches " because the middle ramp was narrow on his trailer. So he traded front wheels with me. when he drove the tractor on the trailer the tractor would have came over backwards if it hadn't been for the plow on back of tractor. we couldn't back the tractor on the trailer because of the polw on the traitor. these tractors need plenty of weight on the front end.

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Mike M

06-02-2004 19:59:11




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 Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to BB, 06-02-2004 18:46:16  
It would all depend on how steep of ground you have. It sounds like you should make a weight bracket for the front and hang some weights on the front or get your front tires loaded.



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Daniel

06-02-2004 19:59:00




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 Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to BB, 06-02-2004 18:46:16  
I have an #800 hitch on my 1952 B. I recently purchased a #812 2 bottom plow that was made for the hitch. I think a #813 3 bottom plow would be just right for an A.



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Ron Sharpe

06-02-2004 19:41:13




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 Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to BB, 06-02-2004 18:46:16  
I have a #9 JD sickle mower that wouldn't be to heavy for an A. I would like to put a 3 point hitch on my A. Where did you get you're hitch from and how did you mount it?



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Dean Van Peursem

06-04-2004 23:52:46




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 Re: Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to Ron Sharpe, 06-02-2004 19:41:13  
I have a 800 series hitch for sale. Contact me at:

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I leaving the Seattle, WA area early Monday morning and heading for NW Iowa. Could take it along if you are in that direction.



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BB

06-03-2004 17:46:02




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 Re: Re: 3-point on JD A (Saftey) in reply to Ron Sharpe, 06-02-2004 19:41:13  
I got the 3-point hitch with the tractor. Have heard that these 800 series hitches are expensive. Glad mine came with the tractor. Mounting the hitch is very self explanatory when you see it. Just a matter of bolting everything to the tractor. Hope this helps. Someone else could probally post a picture for you if needed. I dont have a picture.


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