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Andrew

04-01-2004 06:17:09




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started my tractor for the first time this year and there was a grinding noise in my mag it seems to go away when the tractor warms up. suggestion on what it would be is good




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Clooney

04-01-2004 07:48:19




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 Re: grinding in mag in reply to Andrew, 04-01-2004 06:17:09  
Andrew, it would help to know what tractor model, & the mag model/type you are working on..

~Basically if the grinding is actually coming from the mag it could be a dry bushing or sticking impulse dogs. Or even a build up of crud on the cap terminals that the spark rotor is contacting.. It could even be the internal magnetic rotor contacting the coil laminations due to rust.. If it has a gear reduction mag it could even be gear noise or dried out grease..

~If it just sounds like the mag [or in the mag area] it could easily be a dry R/H governor bearing or the bearing spinning in the governor case [common if the tractor has at a while & all the oil has run out of the bearing area].

~Even internal governor gear noises like fan gear noise can telegraph out to the mag area & sound like it�s coming from the mag..

~Use a mechanics stethoscope, or piece of hose, or even a long handled screw driver & listen to the governor & mag, maybe you can pinpoint the exact noise producing area..

~As John suggested, maybe just adding a little oil in the mag oil holes will stop your grinding..

~Listen to it a little closer & let us know what tractor & mag you are working with & maybe we can help you pinpoint your noise a little closer�.

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Andrew

04-01-2004 09:33:29




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 Re: Re: grinding in mag in reply to Clooney, 04-01-2004 07:48:19  
Its a 1948 john deere b with a wico magneto.



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Duane Larson

04-01-2004 12:11:08




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 Re: Re: Re: grinding in mag in reply to Andrew, 04-01-2004 09:33:29  
Andrew,
Does your magneto have a smooth cover with only the two plug wires coming out, or does it also have an additional wire coming out the top and going into the distributor cap? The former case would imply the Wico XH magneto, and the roller bearing could be dry and howling. If that is the case it would be a good idea to have that bearing replaced as if it freezes up it can snap the shaft on the magnetic rotor, and those are not cheap.
If it has the additional top wire, there are no roller bearings in the mag (only sleeve bearings), and I agree with the other posted comments.

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John T

04-01-2004 07:01:20




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 Re: grinding in mag in reply to Andrew, 04-01-2004 06:17:09  
Good Morning Andrew, Having sat a long time, I wonder about the condition of the bushings and/or if the mag needs some lubrication. Is it a type of mag that has the add oil capability on its exterior (lil, screws you remove and add oil)?? If so try that. Other thigns that can happen when setting are rust accumulation on a rotor, which use may help alleviate. If you suspect gum or crud etc in the rear coupler area from setting, I would remove it, blow and clean her all out, and apply light lube.

Remove the cap and clean and dry out any mud dawbers dirt and oil or dust etc. that can get built up, check the points gap and condition, clean and lube the rotor shaft with that regular cam lube, lube any external oilers, and see what happens. What mag you have???

Good Luck n God Bless

John T

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