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4320 vs. 1066

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John

09-26-2003 19:30:37




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if both tractors were equal in weight and were both stock tractors, who do you think would pull who backwards??? i think they are pretty close to the same horsepower range.. thanks for any input..




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4320nut

01-23-2004 16:08:47




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
I have a 1971 4320. After killing an 806 super stock at the sled, the only part of a 1066 I see is the SMV sign as it drives away... FAST!!! By the way, mine is stock at 130 HP.



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Jon

09-28-2003 14:21:26




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
No comparison, The 1066 would walk all over the 4320. My 856 with turbo always smoked the 4320s at the tractor pulls when I used to pull.



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4320nut

01-23-2004 15:59:42




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Jon, 09-28-2003 14:21:26  
I think you mean 4366. I wouldn't waste the fuel kicking butt on an 856, or even a 1206!!!



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farmerbill

09-28-2003 14:02:54




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
I always thought of IH's 1066 being like deeres 4020. Everybody had one at one time or wanted one. It was a tractor that was as capable of baling hay or plowing. The tranmissions never were good to shift but time has made them almost impossible if they have not been maintained. If I were going out to spend a day plowing with a choice of these two tractors in equal in condition the 1066 would be a easy choice. It has a far better engine, impressive torque, more economical, and a tranmission with the ability to shift on the go. I dont have a 1066 anymore but still have a 86 and although it doesnt do any real work I wouldn't be afraid to tie into anything with it. I always said once you got the tractor in gear and the plow in the ground they were far and away the best tractor in their time.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-28-2003 03:58:38




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
I tried to stay out of this one, but the GREEN vs. RED thing got the best of me! These two tractors weren't built to be hooked back to back, and pulled. They were built to be a "primary tractor" on big farms of the 60's and early 70's. There is a good bit of "baggage" that goes along with that. It seems that some people want them to be "retro-activley modern" That is, still able to be compared with the needs of today. They just won't make the grade. When the 4020 was introduced in 1963 (as a 1964 model) it was the state of the art, best tractor on the market, for big farms of the day. It propelled John Deere into the lead, as far as "market share" in the farm machinery industry goes. There were more 1966 4020's built, than any other year. In late 1970, the 4320 was introduced. It became a hot seller. The 4520 was a "good" tractor, but as Deere's first attemt as a "turbo tractor" it had a few design problems. The 4320 was a much better design. The 4520 was actually "upgraded" to the 4620. They were a giant in their day. The 4320 was still just a refined, and re-developed 4020. It wasn't untill the 1973 models came out, and the 4430 was introduced that the technology caught up with the demand for power in the 125 HP range. The 1066 was IH's tractor in the same power range. They were a little heavier, and had 10 cu. inches bigger engine. But much the same story. In those days, one company would make a step, then the other would make their move a year or two later. Back and forth they went. Both tractors got left in the dust, as the horsepower war raged on. Both were VERY GOOD tractors. When someone bought a tractor back then (Same thing applies nowdays too) they bought more than just the physical tractor. You buy the support of the company, the dealers ability to get you parts, and the long-term investment of your money. As I mentioned earlier, Deere took it's place as "market share" leader in the 60's. They have never looked back. IH began to "stumble" about that time. (Their problems can be traced back to financial decisions made in the late 1930's) It wasn't the fault of great tractors like the 1066, but they became "victims" of IH's demise. When Case bought the IH line, they saved the name, and some would argue that they even made a better tractor. Maybe. But things were never the same again. Resale values on IH tractors began to faulter. Dealers that had been in business for decades, shut their doors. New ones opened, but the "confidence" in IH was rattled to it's core. Were am I going with this? Like I said, you buy "THE BIG PICTURE" when you buy a tractor. In the grand scheme of things, John Deere took the tractors of the 60's and 70's, and bolted into the lead. IH took their product line of the same time, and back-slid into a distant second place. I'll take the 4320 any day! Granted, you might chain the two together, and one might drag the other backwards, you might dig four holes, or the chain might break. But take them out in the cornfield, and one led their respective company to the top, while the other just faded away.

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4320nut

01-23-2004 15:54:58




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-28-2003 03:58:38  
AMEN!!!!



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JDBert

09-27-2003 19:35:31




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
Neither one would pull the other backwards, they'd both just dig big holes. Honestly though when new the 1066 and 4320 would be pretty close in HP, 1066 is a little heavier, but like others have commented, they just suck to operate. We've had two 4320's now and both were pretty hot, the first one we had the pump was set to 150/hp(on the test stand) on the tractor it did 175! The one we have now is set at 10% over and is turning 140. We just put a soundguard cab on ours, so we plan to keep it for awhile, cause its a good tractor.

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37D

09-27-2003 15:00:56




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
A 4620 would be a better match against a 1066. Mine turns about 170 & is/was more than a match for any 1066 around here, but as others have said most 1066s are in a fence row or the salvage yard by now while the 4620 just "keeps going& going". I'm not real sure, but I think the 46 was a little heavier too.



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4320NUT

01-23-2004 15:57:43




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to 37D, 09-27-2003 15:00:56  
That is an unfair comparison. The 1066 was made to compete the 4320 and 4430.



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If you want raw power-go

09-27-2003 11:13:53




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
outpull a 404.



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4320 nut

01-23-2004 15:50:57




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to If you want raw power-go , 09-27-2003 11:13:53  
Anyone can turn the screw out!! Antique rules say 20% over stock HP. In that case, 404 has more torque and wins.



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414 out pulls 404

09-27-2003 11:16:49




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to If you want raw power-go , 09-27-2003 11:13:53  
weight wise the 1066 is heavier.



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Glen in TX

09-26-2003 21:31:56




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
The 4320 would take it because the red one would probably break something. I say this because we still have a 1971 4320 going strong. We put in most of our wheat with it last week. Nothing major ever done to it but a fuel pump overhaul. Just changed fluids and taken care of it. All our neighbors red tractors of the same age are sitting in the weeds with something broke.



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Ben Augustine

04-19-2005 07:28:31




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Glen in TX, 09-26-2003 21:31:56  
The green machine would be the one in the weeds, thats why they are green in the first place so they can hide in the weeds and watch other tractors work!!!!!



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Bill

09-26-2003 20:26:02




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
thats a tough question ;;; if you would have said 4520 its a no brainer, the 4520 is one tough heavy hoss,,the 1066 is a hot rod, horsepower in the raw , Id pick the 4320 in day after day field work, nicer to run etc, Im a JD man but Id say the 1066 is balanced better and would take the 4320,,, My 2 cents,,,Bill



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4320nut

01-23-2004 16:02:37




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Bill, 09-26-2003 20:26:02  
I think you have the 4520 and the 4620 mixed up. The 4520 was the best boat anchor Deere ever made. The only good 4520 is one with a 4620 engine in it.



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T213R

09-27-2003 06:47:26




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Bill, 09-26-2003 20:26:02  
The 1066, while "rated" at about the same hp, was probably operated at more like 175+ hp, due in part to the general dissatisfaction most owners apparantly had with "stock" hp on those things. They turned most of them "up". A 175+hp 1066 will easily outwork a 113.5 hp 4320, but will likely lose (quite) a bit from the longevity of the tractor. The 4320 = $12,500, but a 1066 = $6500. That is because well used 1066s are often regarded as WORN OUT and priced accordingly, but the JD 4320, like most 4020 tractors, is still well regarded. I feel that a JD 5020 is often priced like a 1066 is, and for the same reason---potential buyers are none too sure that the tractors still have much "value" or "life" left in them, and pay accordingly!

Buy the 4320 if you want to farm with it. Build that worn out 1066 into a puller!

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Tye

09-26-2003 19:44:19




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 Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to John, 09-26-2003 19:30:37  
I don't know the answer to your question but I have driven a 966 before and let me tell you... what a piece of ****! I had more trouble shifting that thing... would always jam at the worst possible places. A couple days before I left that farm the left rear wheel fell off when the owner was on it. He was fine. But if I was him I probably would have searched out a 4320.



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Chris Reinmann

09-26-2003 20:58:27




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Tye, 09-26-2003 19:44:19  
I would say a 966 and a 4320 would be a closer match. I've had both, and there was'nt much difference in power, the 4320 is nicer to operate, and shifts easier.



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Dr. EVIL

09-27-2003 20:05:21




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 Re: Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Chris Reinmann, 09-26-2003 20:58:27  
I have to agree. I broke-in the Neighbor's 4320 one night the day He got it, had about 3 or 4 hours on it when I got in it and plowed most of the night. Seemed to finally be the tractor the 4020 SHOULD have BEEN! Biggest problem with IHC rear ends was the fact they had such fantatic engines in front of them. And I'd have to say there's still MORE 1066's running than there ever were 4320's built.

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mike

09-26-2003 20:53:20




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 Re: Re: 4320 vs. 1066 in reply to Tye, 09-26-2003 19:44:19  
well its like this the torque is probaly out on the 1066 so it'll be 4320, green power only way to go



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