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BDOO

09-12-2003 11:22:57




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Can someone give history about 1010's




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MIKE HANLEY

09-12-2003 23:54:11




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 Re: JohnDeere1010 in reply to BDOO, 09-12-2003 11:22:57  
I'd thought you would have 10 answers by now. MY WORDS HERE> An over rated tractor with 430 enginereeing and 4 cylinders rather the two of the 430. And that is what I think was the downfall of the 1010. JD did in 1960 with all the new generation tractors what every other tractor maker was doing at the time. Winding the engine rigth tite to max out the drawbar HP. All 2 bangers were tested with the engine RPM's so as to turn the PTO at 540 RPM's both on the belt rateing and at the drawbar. (They started testing at the PTO in 1960). The 1010 gas was tested at 1946 engine RPM's to to put out standard PTO speed and at that engine speed put out 29.60 HP. Then they wound the engine tite to 2500 engine RPM's and it put out HP 36.13 and they sold it as a 36 HP tractor when it was really a 29 HP tractor. Of course the engines would not stand up at 2500 engine RPM's. Guys also then ran the engine at 2500 RPM's on PTO equipment and recked the machines there were operating. A retired JD dealer once told me that they put in sleves and pistions from a 2010 into a couple of 1010's and then set it so it wouldn't run over 2000 RPM's. The guys were happy with the HP and the engines lasted a lot longer. Sales lit dated 11/64 show the 1010 was availible in a row crop (narrow front with opintional wide front end), a row crop utility and a special row crop utility (economy verision), standard, and a crawler. The sales lit doesn't cover it but I belive there were other limited models. Diesel engine was also opintional. Which like like gas was also over rated at too many engine RPM's. They had goofy transmissions speeds. 3 to 4 MPH was standard plowing speed. In second gear the I010 ran at 3.7 MPH (sales lit with 13.6 X 28 tires but the NEB test show 4.78 MPH with 12.4 X 28 tires with a pull of 2401# in 2nd gear.) And at 2500 engine MPH's about rigth but the engine was wound tite. If it ran at 1900 engine RPM's it ran at 2.8 MPH. A little slow for plowing. If you went to 3th gear, it ran at 5.9 MPH (sales lit speeds) at 2500 engine RPM's it was two fast for plowing and lacked the HP to pull the plow. If it ran at 1900 engine RPM's in 3th gear it ran at 4.5 MPH (sales lit speed) and had still less power to pull the plow. So from the factory the 1010 was dezined to plow at 2500 engine RPM's in 2nd gear. And again the engine would not stand up at 2500 engine RPM's. They were built from 1960, Some call them a 1961 as the dates for the two bangers started in AUG for the following year's model but the 1010's started in the spring of 1960. They were replaced by the 1020 in 1965. The same story can be repeated almost word for word for the 2010. The 2010 was a 38 HP replacement for the 530, not the 45 HP tractor replacment for the 630 that it was sold as. The 3010 could out work a 630 but not by much, and could not match a 730 at the end of the day. The 4010 really is between a 730 and a 830. The 1960's the AD dept out pulled the Enginereeing dept.

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MIKE HANLEY

09-13-2003 00:17:29




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 Re: Re: JohnDeere1010 in reply to MIKE HANLEY, 09-12-2003 23:54:11  
PS: When I say other tractor makers were doing the "wind the engine tite", I recall as a kid we got a FORD Jubilee in 1953 with a 2-14" plow. and in 1956 the last team of horses went down the road when we added a FORD 860 and a 3-14" plow to the Jubilee. Both those tractors were set up as the JD 1010. One engine speed for PTO work and a much higher engine speed for plowing with the transmissions speeds the FORD's had. Every year one would go in for a overhaul and the next year the other one went in. JD's little tractors were built to compete with FORD. JD should have built a better trator then FORD, not put FORD's problems into a JOHN DEERE.

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susan hanna

01-07-2005 07:38:54




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 Re: Re: Re: JohnDeere1010 in reply to MIKE HANLEY, 09-13-2003 00:17:29  
where can i find a free wiring diagram for this tractor(1010)?



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