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Clooney - question on the D wiring diagram

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Jon

08-25-2003 17:11:16




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First of all - thanks for the diagram. It is very helpful.

Second, the "Light Switch" has a terminal marked "resistor terminal" with a green-on-yellow" wire connected to it which appears to be the same green-on-yellow wire that emerges from the harness at the generator "Field" terminal. Does the "Light Switch" have a built-in resistor to limit the field current to the generator?

Third - there doesn't appear to be a master switch to disconnect power from everything. Does the "Light Switch" also disconnect the power to the generator field or is it only an insulated mounting for the resistor? I don't think they would only have the generator charging the battery when the lights are turned on.

The insulation is very bad on the entire harness. We will probably slit it to double-check our assumptions.

Thanks again,
Jon

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490d

11-11-2006 05:58:00




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 Re: Clooney - question on the D wiring diagram in reply to Jon, 08-25-2003 17:11:16  
i need a wiring diagram for a 1992 john deere 490d escavator



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hilburn

11-18-2003 11:15:31




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 Re: Clooney - question on the D wiring diagram in reply to Jon, 08-25-2003 17:11:16  
i need wire print for john deere 1520



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michael hilburn

11-13-2003 09:31:41




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 Re: Clooney - question on the D wiring diagram in reply to Jon, 08-25-2003 17:11:16  
1520 john deere wire diagran not charging need to cheack wires



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Clooney

08-25-2003 17:47:53




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 Re: Clooney - question on the D wiring diagram in reply to Jon, 08-25-2003 17:11:16  
Jon, you ask----"the "Light Switch" has a terminal marked "resistor terminal" with a green-on-yellow" wire connected to it which appears to be the same green-on-yellow wire that emerges from the harness at the generator "Field" terminal. Does the "Light Switch" have a built-in resistor to limit the field current to the generator?"-----Yes, the light switch has a resistor to limit field current when the lights are turned off [early styled tractors]....With the lights on that field wire is grounded at the light switch to give you a full field. The generator should also have an adjustable 3rd brush to fine tune the generator output for conditions of use..

~"there doesn't appear to be a master switch to disconnect power from everything. Does the "Light Switch" also disconnect the power to the generator field or is it only an insulated mounting for the resistor? I don't think they would only have the generator charging the battery when the lights are turned on"-----No, the light switch doesn't disconnect power TO the field. The field is powered from within the generator by the 3rd brush [or {A} post on the later systems]. All the light switch does is either ground the field [full field, lights on], or ground the field through the light switch resistor [partial field, lights off]. The generator is disconnected from the battery & tractor wiring by the cut-out relay [mounted on the generator]...There is a set of magnetic controlled points in the cut-out relay that monitor the generator's output voltage & when the generator output is higher than the battery voltage the cut-out closes & allows the generator to charge the battery. When the generator output drops below battery voltage the cut-out opens & disconnects the generator's armature [output] from the battery & tractor... The generator CAN charge the battery with the lights on but there isn't much left after the lights get their share of the operating current supply. [simple as that]....

~On the later D's [after about mid 1949] the light switch isn't used for generator field control & the charging system uses a conventional voltage/current regulator instead of a cut-out relay. To tell the difference....A cut-out relay has a rectangular cover & only 2 terminals,,,A voltage regulator has a square cover & either 3 or 4 terminals, or could have 3 terminals & a 4th wire that goes to the generator's [A] post...

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Jon

08-26-2003 01:07:03




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 Re: Re: Clooney - question on the D wiring diagram in reply to Clooney , 08-25-2003 17:47:53  
Clooney, This tractor has the rectangular regulator mounted directly on the generator.
I don't know if it is the original factory unit or a replacement. I don't have the tractor serial number with me but from memory its 18x,xxx, which I believe is a very late production tractor.

Thanks again for the detailed explanation.
Jon



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