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m worth repair before sale(long post)

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andrew

07-21-2003 20:06:01




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I have an m, mt and a 420(still restoring the 420). My question is that the clutch is going on the m and i find it not to be as useful as the other 2. can i possibly get enough for it when i sell it without the clutch repair to be able to buy a larger tractor(520 or larger) or should i repair before i sell it, to get a bit more out of it . I'm a hvac/r mechanic by trade so i might have enough mechanical skill to repair it my self. Sure hate to have to call some one to fix my handy work. On the topic of sales price, i see prices for m's are very wide ranging. My tractor has 70% rubber, rear weights, 6v, runs like a top and starts first time every time, good sheet metal,good hyd,but less than beautiful paint,1950 w/good tag. Any ideas? thanks in advance.

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CPJ

07-22-2003 21:13:12




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 Re: m worth repair before sale(long post) in reply to andrew, 07-21-2003 20:06:01  
I have 5 JD 2-Cylinder Tractors. I bought an M this year and am in the middle of restoring it--so I guess that makes me either an "expert" or a "fool."

First try to sell the M as is, but tell the buyer it needs a clutch and get a dealer's repair shop quote for the work. As long as you are honest and up front, and the price is right, it should sell. If not, you can THEN spend the money to fix it.

I paid $2500 for a "restored" M owned by a friend in my town. I got weights and a two-bottom plow with it. I've known the tractor for several years and at a distance of 6 to 8 feet it always looked OK. But once it became "my tractor" I found more pieces of local hardware store links, fasteners, eye-bolts, etc. painted green than I want to count. I also noticed several more tie rod and front axle welds than at first glance and a bunch of "farmer grade" repairs.

I've been collecting "real" JD replacement parts from various suppliers around the country. I now have another $1700+ invested. If your buyer is somebody like myself, a clutch is just one more item needing replacement. When I get through with what I call a "restoration" it will be Expo quality--maybe not a prize winner but certainly "in the running."

What I am saying is it all depends on who your buyer is and why he wants an M. You won't know who the buyers are and their objectives until you advertise it. Be realistic on the price and leave yourself 10% negotiating room.

(Personally my objective is eventually to get an MT, and then a 40, as I already have a 420--all in the same family. MAYBE I'll then look for a 430 but that's a lot of $$$$ down the road.

(When I finish the M, I'll be looking for an MT which is basically sound and runs well, but needs work, replacement parts and a paint job that totals about what I pay for the basic tractor. To me a big part of the "fun" in JD collecting is searching for the parts to make it look and work to my own standards, which are not necessarily exactly the way it left the factory 50 years ago, but something I can show, parade AND use!)

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CLW

07-22-2003 19:36:20




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 Re: m worth repair before sale(long post) in reply to andrew, 07-21-2003 20:06:01  
andrew, you could check the price of the parts and then offer the tractor for X amout of dollars as is, or X plus dollars with the new clutch. Let the buyer decide. I think JDVan is correct, 520's are not cheap.
CLW



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tom

07-22-2003 05:21:22




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 Re: m worth repair before sale(long post) in reply to andrew, 07-21-2003 20:06:01  
Andrew,

In the M, you need to figure the what the parts and your labor would cost you, then decide on a sale price...figure what you can get "as is", then with the clutch fixed...if it's more than your parts a labor cost, fix it, if not, then don't...mainly, it depends on what the buyer is willing to pay...



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JDVan

07-21-2003 20:24:33




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 Re: m worth repair before sale(long post) in reply to andrew, 07-21-2003 20:06:01  
On first blush I seriously doubt you can get enough out of a M even with the clutch fixed to buy a decent 520. 520's with a three point seem to start at $4000 and up from there even in unrestored condition. A 620 would be slightly less and a 720 gas might be even be slightly lower. But, you never know, sometimes a bargain pops up.



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