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430 Oil pump/Distributor timing Help

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Justin

07-07-2003 07:05:14




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I rebuilt the motor on my John Deere 430 (removed the oil pump in the process. It was hard to get back in line with the cam gear/distributor) and need some advice on how to time the distributor. I have just found an article about having to time the oil pump as well but I did not do this. Any help would be appreciated because I do not know if I currently have the distributor out 180 Degrees.




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Clooney

07-07-2003 09:23:47




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 Re: 430 Oil pump/Distributor timing Help in reply to Justin , 07-07-2003 07:05:14  
Justin, the oil pump drives the distributor so will need to be timed correctly to get the distributor to be in the correct position for the wire stud to clear the generator & block.
~To time [or check] the oil pump,,,bring the engine to TDC on compression on the front cylinder & the D/C timing mark centered in the timing hole. At that time the slot in the oil pump drive for the distributor should be running fore/aft with the narrow side facing away from the engine. ~Once the oil pump & drive is installed correctly then install the distributor with the side wire stud facing directly away from the engine [the distributor should only mesh on way]
~To time the distributor,,,initially, just turn the distributor until the points just start to open. That should be close enough to get it to run, then once running install a timing light on the front plug wire & point it in the timing hole & with the engine running at fast idle turn the distributor until the [SPARK] lines up with the center of the timing hole...

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Bob

07-07-2003 08:19:57




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 Re: 430 Oil pump/Distributor timing Help in reply to Justin , 07-07-2003 07:05:14  
CAREFULLY rotate engine by hand in direction of rotation with ignition shut off while CAREFULLY holding finger OVER #1 spark plug hole. You will feel pressure when the cylinder begins to come up on compression. As the pressure ceases, and suction begins, you have passed TDC. Back up the engine and try again, stopping at the point where prssure ends. Confirm the EXACT spot with the engine timing mark, if available. Turn the distributor housing OPPOSITE the direction the rotor rotates until the points JUST BEGIN TO OPEN. Tighten the distributor hold-down. Identify the terminal on the cap that corresponds to the position of the rotor. This is #1. Position the spark plug wires IN FIRING ORDER starting from the one determined to be #1.

The above is a generic procedure for gasoline engines, and, if memory serves, this is a 2 cylinder engine, so after determining #1 TDC, you would need to position the distributor housing so as the points JUST BEGIN TO MOVE, the rotor lines up with the cap terminal that is the first of the two close togther terminals that the rotor passes as it rotates. The #2 wire would go to the other terminal that the rotor will be in line with 1/2 crankshaft revolution later.

This will give you a base timing of 0 degrees. You may need to advance it a few degrees to manufacturer's specs. I assume this engine has an electric starter? If it is hand cranked there is a risk of kick-back if the timing is set earlier than TDC.

It would be easier if the oil pump gear was aligned as the service manual shows, but there is no reason the engine will not run if the above procedure is followed.

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