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JD A fan shroud and radiator question...

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chris in wi

06-09-2003 00:53:39




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Have been looking (not particularly hard, I'll admit) for a JD "A" (1946) fan shroud for about three years. I've found half-shrouds galore (usually the top half) and a couple of rotted-out whole shrouds that someone foolishly sandblasted to pieces, none worth buying. Seems that chaff build-up led to these things rotting out, and those that didn't rot out were cut in half by farmers who couldn't figur out how to get them off without removing the radiator or fan...

Not unlike the square hole cut in the hood for easy access to the muffler!

So do I really need the shroud? With the old pump-less cooling system, I'd think I would...

Anyone run a shroud-less system in a hot climate?

Anyone got an extra shroud for sale?

Also, I've got a new radiator core and was going to put the radiator back together, but about four of the bolts/studs that hold the radiator together sheared off while I was taking the radiator apart. Is it worth it to bore out the broken bolts and tap the holes, or will it hold water just fine with a few missing bolts? Figure there must be someone out there who runs with a few missing radiator bolts who would know... :)

Chris

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Bob

06-09-2003 12:10:11




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 Re: JD A fan shroud and radiator question... in reply to chris in wi, 06-09-2003 00:53:39  
I've made one out of two tops for my '52 B, and I think all I had to do after welding it together was to drill a couple new mounting holes in the shroud. Didn't seem like any big deal to do, but it's been a couple years since I did mine...



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Robert

06-09-2003 10:36:02




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 Re: JD A fan shroud and radiator question... in reply to chris in wi, 06-09-2003 00:53:39  
I just went through the same thing on my '45 A (broken bolts, etc.). Like someone else posted, I believe you'll be miles ahead just getting those broken bolts out, and repaired. If the bolts aren't all there in the strap areas, I'd be willing to bet that it will leak, since there would be no way to tension that part of the core/tank area (without the bolt).
Good Luck!



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Dave 2n

06-09-2003 07:19:20




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 Re: JD A fan shroud and radiator question... in reply to chris in wi, 06-09-2003 00:53:39  
Chris-

Not sure if the radiator will not leak without replacing those turned off bolts but suspect it might. Think about having to go back and do all of this again just because you didn't take care of the problem while you had it apart. We've replaced the radiator core on a 48 A and a 54 70. In both cases, we twisted off bolts and just ended up taking the upper and lower tanks to a machine shop for the fix. Replacing a radiator core on one of these is not one of the world's easiest and most pleasant jobs so I would recommend taking care of the bolt issues while you are at this stage.

I love my 50B, my 48A and my 54 70; but, neither the muffler replacement procedure on the B's and A's nor the radiator core replacement chore were high points in John Deere engineering. These are fine old machines but mention these two issues among JD folks and they tend to go silent or change the subject pretty quickly.

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Clooney

06-09-2003 03:08:48




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 Re: JD A fan shroud and radiator question... in reply to chris in wi, 06-09-2003 00:53:39  
Chris, you really should install a new fan shroud. It will be a lot harder to install one later. You can live without one if you never work the tractor but if you work it you will have overheating problems without it.
~Those fan shrouds shouldn't be too hard to find as there are a lot of A's being parted out...



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AC

06-09-2003 06:19:38




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 Re: Re: JD A fan shroud and radiator question... in reply to Clooney, 06-09-2003 03:08:48  
Chris in Wi, E mail me. I am going up to Wis this week and I know where There are a few, at least a few last time I was there. I need one too. What do you want to pay for a complete one? E mail me before tuesday...AC



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chris in wi

06-09-2003 10:15:32




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 Re: Re: Re: JD A fan shroud and radiator question. in reply to AC, 06-09-2003 06:19:38  
AC,

Your e-mail address is hidden. I'd like to talk about maybe lining something up in the way of a fan shroud. Drop me a line at my e-mail and I'll get back to you. Take the "A" off the beginning of the e-mail address or it won't work (spam protection)

[email protected]



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