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havvey

05-27-2003 06:13:33




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am having trouble with horizontal distributor after many years on points the cap is cracked so i tinkered it up my question is how would you set one of these up and what about the coil?




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Clooney (long post)

05-27-2003 08:11:12




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 Re: clooney john t jd distributor in reply to havvey, 05-27-2003 06:13:33  

Havvey, seeing as you say it�s a horizontal distributor there is a good possibility it�s a Wico XD distributor. [is the cap kind of square [oblong] instead or round?]. ������.WICO DISTRIBUTOR������

~On those Wico distributors the condenser is under the points breaker plate mounted upright in the corner, [make sure to match the points plate index marks on re-assembly].

~Contrary to other information the points gap is .015� on that Wico distributor [high part of the points cam].

~The cap is rather expensive on those Wico�s so be careful when working with the new one.

~On those Wico distributors make sure the shaft bushings are in good shape & not worn or loose [a common problem].

~Also make sure the centrifugal advance is working, not binding, & both springs are intact..

~Look at the points cam for excess wear [some will have significant wear if used for years without oiling the cam wick].
If you decide to use points grease instead of the oil wick just remove the oil wick from it�s holder. If you use the production oil wick just place a couple of drops of oil on the wick & MAKE SURE it is contacting the points cam.

~Other than that the internal coil is the weak spot on those Wico�s. If you are running a 6 volt Wico at 12 volts the coil won�t last long [the 12 volt Wico distributors have 2 resistors in them] & an external ballast resistor won�t usually get you the correct coil voltage.

~You asked about a coil? Was that is in reference to using an external coil with your Wico dist or replacing the internal Wico coil? You can use an external coil with that Wico dist & that makes a good package that works well {E-Mail me for details on converting that Wico to an external coil system} New internal coils are fairly easy to come by & will help if yours is shorting, arcing, or low on KV output..

~If you have a round cap you then have the Delco distributor that uses an external coil.

�����..DELCO DISTRIBUTOR

~The Delco distributor is about the same as the Wico only the points gap is .022�. Again check shaft bushings for wear, check the centrifugal advance for working & the springs to both be there & working. Make sure you get the correct rotor to go with the cap [depends on the cap contact position].

~Those Delco�s are a pretty hardy distributor & usually don�t need much work [just points & a clean up].

~If you are asking about a coil for the Delco system we will have to know the tractor make/model & if 6 or 12 volts & if it has a ballast resistor [post back with questions on this].

~To set the ignition timing on either ignition system you can either use a timing light [late tractors, or you will have to add an advance mark on the flywheel on the early tractors]. Or you can set the base timing [starting retard] to whatever your tractor specs are without a timing light. We will need to know the tractor make, model, fuel type & year to give you the correct timing procedure & setting degrees�.


Post back with questions or with more info for more details�

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John T

05-27-2003 06:41:30




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 Re: clooney john t jd distributor in reply to havvey, 05-27-2003 06:13:33  
Mornin Havvey man, Well, if you replace the cap it should fix it right??? You may as well replace the points if they are years old as you say, and gap the new ones to 0.022 on high cam. I don't usually replace the condensors unless they are known to definitely be bad like shorted out, they should show open to a DC continuity test. Of course, you rotate the distributor to advance or retard the timing (I set them by ear, but at RPM with advance, they fire somewhere around 20 to 25 degrees BTDC), and initially, just when the left piston is at TDC on its compression power stroke, is when the points open to fire the left plug via the leading cap terminal, and the right fires when the points again open 180 degrees later. The coil should be okay with no changes needed. (Sorry, I didnt understand what all you need to know about the coil and distributor???) Its high (not to distributor) side lil terminal receives power from the ignition switch, then through any series ballast resistor, while the coils low side is wired to the side terminal on the distributor where it gets grounded via the contact points when they are closed.

What tractor is it??
Is it a 6 or 12 v system??
Does it have an externl ceramic ballast resistor?
You mean by horizontal distributor one out the side of governor similar to a mag, or on top flat and cam driven???

Regardless, set her up to where the points are open to fire the LEFT cylinder out the LEADING cap terminal at TDC on its compression power stroke and the RIGHT cylinder 180 later out the LAGGING terminal. If its a side governor mount like a mag, when the left hand cylinder is at TDC on its compression power stroke, the female drive slot on the governor shaft end is flat horizontal and the points should be open and the rotor pointing to the caps leading terminal tower to then fire the left plug.

Take care n have fun with the old girl.

John T

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havvey

05-27-2003 07:43:38




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 Re: Re: clooney john t jd distributor in reply to John T, 05-27-2003 06:41:30  

thanks



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