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Calcium chloride/water filled tires?

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Merrill

05-10-2003 19:43:38




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My JD manual said to use 2 lbs of calcium chloride to 1 gal of water to fill tires. My question is "Is calcium chloride a type of salt? and if so will I have a rust problem?"




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G Taylor

05-11-2003 19:40:45




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
Unless it's a loader application, a two cylinder is already in the or over weight range. 115 to 145 lbs per HP for a two wheel drive bias ply equiped tractor.



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gene

05-11-2003 10:01:47




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
i have used both calium an antifreeze, i prefer the antifreeze, but now anymore i use more weights. the cost is not that much more. easier to handle, no special equipment, pumps an such, an be sides, it looks nice to have more weights on it. on my 80 i have the inside 500 lders an then have 3 sets on the outside. it looks nice an pulls real nice. johndeeregene



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Gerry

05-11-2003 05:23:47




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
I bought a new Deere ( 5420 ) last fall that came with "RimGuard" in the tires. I was told no rust and environmentally friendly. We are in northern Michigan. If you want more information I can call my JD dealer.



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BMeyer

05-11-2003 03:56:08




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
Can't remember where I read it, but some folks are using lead BB's. They have a machine that blows them into the tires used for the modified tractor pullers.



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David Bacon

05-11-2003 10:22:49




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 Re: Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to BMeyer, 05-11-2003 03:56:08  
Unless you were using tires with out tubes, My thoughts would be a lot of wear on the tube, like a rock polisher Dave NE Iowa



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RickB.

05-11-2003 03:01:53




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
There is a product called RimGuard. It is a byproduct of sugar beet processing that weighs 11 lbs/gal andis OSHA approved as liquid ballast. We have been installing it in new NH tractors for 2 years with great success. Distributed out of Michigan, I believe.



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Brandon

05-10-2003 20:33:44




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
Oh yes, calcium will do a number on rims! If the stuff stays put in the tubes where it belongs, it is fine, but a leak left unfixed can create havoc with rims if left to rust for a while.

I've been thinking of adding weight to my 80 (as if it isn't heavy enough!). Water isn't a good idea for Ohio, and the cast iron wheel weights are too pricey for me. I've been thinking of trying WINTER windshield washer fluid (saw it suggested on one of these boards!)

It isn't as heavy as calcium (heck, probably slightly lighter than water!), but there shouldn't be any rust or freezing problems. FITs suggestion of Glycol will work too, but that is basically antifreeze. If it leaks out it can poision animals or children. Just thought I'd mention that.

What about oil? :)

Brandon
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My JD model 80 website

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F-I-T

05-10-2003 21:03:13




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 Re: Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Brandon, 05-10-2003 20:33:44  
Brandon:

You're thinking of Ethylene Glycol, which is poisonous. Propylene Glycol is used in many industrial cooling system applications (cooling towers, etc.) and even around food products.

You can't use oil, because it would breakdown the synthetic rubber in a heartbeat. And it's not even as heavy as water.


Now, MERCURY, that would make for some mean ballast ! Of course ingesting it can make you go insane.....

F-I-T

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F-I-T

05-10-2003 19:54:23




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 Re: calcium chloride/water filled tires? in reply to Merrill , 05-10-2003 19:43:38  
Merrill:

Yes, to both questions. It's also sold in the winter as an ice melt compound.

Up north we used Calcium Chloride and water in tires for two reasons. One it prevented the mixture from freezing (just like Sodium Chloride, table salt, would do...oceans don't freeze, right ?). Two, the amount of Calcium Chloride you can dissolve in a gallon of water raises the specific gravity significantly, so a gallon of Calcium Chloride and water weighs a lot more than a gallon of water alone.

Some folks started to use Propylene Glycol to minimize the rusting problem, but you can't get as much weight in a given tire volume with that solution.

Lots of older tractors will have damage around the valve stem on the rim because of leaking calcium over the years. Some rims can even rust through in large areas.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
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