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JD 'A' Slant Dash Help?

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dwm

04-26-2003 14:08:27




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Been reading through archives, much great info. Just acquired a slant dash A for project tractor, don't have much history on it as the former owner passed away. First problem is the serial plate is gone. Any casting numbers or good ways to tell mfg. date? Know it must be between '39 and '47.
Second problem is it only runs on one cylinder. The only shiny part on it is a recent replacement Delco magneto, and we do know that it never ran right with this mag, so it's the first suspect. Any ideas on where to start? Ignition timing? How can we verify this Delco will work, or are we better off going back to a Wico? From the archived posts, it seem that the Wico 'C' would be the right mag-is this correct? Thanks in advance, any help appreciated.

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dwm

04-27-2003 07:09:46




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 Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-26-2003 14:08:27  
third party image

Three pix of posted in 'Tractor Photos'.



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Will P

04-26-2003 14:27:58




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 Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-26-2003 14:08:27  
Hello Dwm,

To figure out "close" to what year you have. You have to answer many questions. I take my time posting all of the questions and people don't respond. So, if you want my help. Respond back. And then answer the questions.

Next, I don't think Delco made a mag. Only a distributer. Pull the spark plug wire off of the spark plug. Hold it about a 1/4" away from the block. (but not with your hands) Is there a nice blue spark when you crank the engine?

Make sure you have solid metal core wires on the tractor. Don't use carbon core automobile wires. Put in a nice set of Autolite 386's or 388's

I am sure Clooney or John T. will help you more with the ignition problem than me. I love mags, not distributors.

Will P

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dwm

04-26-2003 14:45:33




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 Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to Will P, 04-26-2003 14:27:58  
Will P
My brother bought this tractor, I've not seen it yet except for some pix. If you give me an idea what to look for, I will relay once he gets it home. Thanks for the response.



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Will P

04-26-2003 22:35:00




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-26-2003 14:45:33  
dwm,

Time for some questions,

1. 4 speed or 6 speed trans?
2. Angle iron frame or cast iron frame?
3. Pressure cooling or thermosyphen?
4. 5" or 7" lights?
5. straight draw-bar or bent?
6. Generator serial number?

Answer those few, And I can get a general idea where we are at. Then I can ask more specific questions on changes of the years we have narrowed it down to.

Will P

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dwm

04-27-2003 06:49:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to Will P, 04-26-2003 22:35:00  
Okay, some new facts:
The new mag installed is a Fairbanks-Morse, not a Delco, my brother says no numbers on it-just two letters and he is getting those.
6-speed transmission.
Cast angle frame.
Thermosyphen cooling.
Only light left that looks 'correct' is the rear, and is 5"; someone has added lights up front near the grill, believe these are shown originally back near each side of the dash.
Drawbar is straight, not the bent one that can be turned up or down, and does not have a roller.
Will check the generator for a serial #.
I'll post some pix if I can figure out how.....thanks.

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Will P

04-27-2003 08:51:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-27-2003 06:49:13  
Just saw the pictures of your A.

I see it is an Angle iron frame. 41-mid43, 45-47

How many holes in the seat?

The hubs on the rear axle. Are they both like the one in the picture of the rear axle. Both have a rim over an inch thick?

On the pulley side of the block. In front of the pulley. There will be some numbers. One will be "A*****" I don't want that one. I want the one that reads something like "528" It looks like a cast in serial plate.

Got to go work my B in the Field. Be back tonight.

Will P

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dwm

04-27-2003 11:02:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to Will P, 04-27-2003 08:51:56  
More Info: Fairbanks-Morse mag with the number 13745 on it. Also on the mag, the letters (smaller print) 'D', then in larger print 'R V', followed by smaller print again '2 A'. Is this the correct mag, or a correct replacement that will work if properly timed etc?
5 holes in the seat.
Correction: Flat drawbar does have roller.
The A number on the pulley side is A2644R, then there is a tag riveted on next to that with the number '183'. Again, thanks for the help. dwm

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Will P

04-27-2003 19:07:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-27-2003 11:02:39  
5 hole seat is for 45 to 47. The mag is not correct. It should have a Wico C.

From your previous posts. I take it that your tractor was made somewhere between 45 and mid 46. Mid 46 got the drop drawbar. So your serial number range would be 542700-561902

Can you see any numbers on the generator pulley?

B2124R is 547261 and up
D2911R (AA1930R) is 547260 and bellow

Deere changed the generator at serial number 542718. Replacing #1101356 and #1101385 with #1101371

Will P

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dwm

04-28-2003 07:49:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to Will P, 04-27-2003 19:07:34  
Thanks for the help, Will P.

The generator is not original, has no numbers, and is not wired. Looks like somebody had a distributor ignition on this at one time, possibly meaning they went to 12 volts, then tried to go back to a mag. There are cut wires, a resistor, what looks to be coil bracket, etc.

The throttle and choke linkage is gone. The flywheel has some sort of extra bracket bolted on, making us wonder about the condition of the crank and flywheel splines. The guy we got it from said he could only get it running on one cylinder, seems to be the left from the looks of that spark plug. We have not tried it yet, and need to figure out next whether this F-B mag will work. We definitely found a project tractor!

Now that we know the serial number range, I'm going to get a set of manuals. I'll close this post out and start a new one soon I'm sure. Thanks again, dwm.

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Will P

04-28-2003 20:35:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-28-2003 07:49:50  
dwm,

No problem. Thanks for answering the questions. Most of the time I post allot of questions and no one responds. Glad to see that my time was put to good use. Anytime you need help, just ask.

Will P



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Will P

04-27-2003 08:28:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'A' Slant Dash Help? in reply to dwm, 04-27-2003 06:49:13  
Ok,

6 speed, 41-47
Thermosyphen cooling, 41-mid43, 45-47
5" light, mid 41-47
straight drawbar, 41-mid46

You said "Cast angle frame" Cast iron solid belly? or Angle iron see thew belly?

Will P



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