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AGR538

04-21-2003 07:45:13




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Just purchased a 620. Needs a little work but it will come around. There are a few things I do not know about this tractor. My first question is does it have a positive ground? Second, can you still get the oil operated fuel pumps on the settlement bowl? And last, does the 620 require a resistor between the battery and the coil? Any help would be appreciated.




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Tim

04-21-2003 17:09:07




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 Re: Proud 620 owner in reply to AGR538, 04-21-2003 07:45:13  
Congratulations on the 620! I've had mine for about six years and she's a good ol'girl.

Listen to Clooney and John T. as they are great resources and just all-round good folks.

Tim



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SamH

04-21-2003 10:15:57




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 Re: Proud 620 owner in reply to AGR538, 04-21-2003 07:45:13  
The answer to your question about availability of the sediment bowl shutoff is yes, the rebuild kit is available from Deere. I bought one from my local dealer a couple of months ago. As a matter of fact, he had it in stock.



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Clooney

04-21-2003 09:15:36




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 Re: Proud 620 owner in reply to AGR538, 04-21-2003 07:45:13  
AGR538, your 620 [actually all 2 cylinder Deere's] came as positive ground from the factory. It will work either way as long as the charging system is set up to charge to the system ground, the coil is wired correctly & the ammeter reads correctly.
~That oil pressure fuel shut-off isn't a pump [your system has the fuel tank above the carb so it is gravity feed]. That oil pressure controlled mechanism is actually an oil pressure controlled fuel shut-off & is there so you don't have to manually turn the fuel off when you stop the tractor. As soon as the tractor starts it automatically turns the fuel on for you.
~Your 620 came from the factory with a 6 volt coil & ballast resistor by-pass starting system. Over the years sometimes they were removed & an internal resistor coil installed. If you have that resistor it should be mounted under the front of the steering support. Another way to tell is put a voltmeter on the coil's ignition switch side terminal, it will show somewhere around 6-7 volts at idle.....

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John T

04-21-2003 08:27:47




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 Re: Proud 620 owner in reply to AGR538, 04-21-2003 07:45:13  
Mornin AGR, I also own a 620 and love it.

1) It came from the factory as positive ground, but have no idea what you have now. Just look and see which battery terminal, pos or neg, is attached to the tractors frame or case or seat etc etc with a big battery cable and thats what you now have i.e pos grounded or neg grounded. If you have a 6 volt un ballasted coil, its polarity should match that of the tractor. If she starts n runs and charges fine and the ammeter indicates in the proper direction, your polarity and coil etc is probalby fine as is, regardless if pos or neg grounded. Post back what you find.

2) That oil thing on the sediement bowl isnt a pump, its a low oil presure safety fuel shut off system. (If yours is equipped with one, not just a regular sediment bowl) Theres a small presurized oil line hooked to it which tees into the oil pressure gauge, and if theres no oil pressure, it shuts off the gas so you dont trash the tractors engine by running with no oil pressure. They often go bad (leaky rubber diaphragm) causing oil to mix with gas which is a bad problem that needs immediate fixing.

3) Many 620's (about all Ive seen) did indeed have the ceramic voltage dropping current reducing ballast reswistor in series with the circuit leading from the ignition switch down to the coil. Its intended for using 6 volt coils on 12 volt battery systems and it drops approx 5 to 6 volts leaving the remaining 6 or 7 or more across the coil as it was designed for. If you run a 6 volt coil on a 12 volt system unballsted, the coil will run hot (eventually go bad) and the points will burn out prematurely. Most have the ballast by pass startign assist system which allows the coil to see full battery voltage ONLY when the start motor is engaged and then its back in the circuit to limit coil and points current and drop coil voltage. Its fed off a lil side terminal on the starter switch which is hot ONLY when the starter is engaged and is wired either to the high (non distributor) side of the coil or the low (non ignition switch) side of the ballast, the same electrical point. I forget which issue, but a while back I had published an entire article in Green Magazine on Ballast Resistor Systems, so e mail if you want a copy.

Glad to hear of the purchase, post back any more questions, I can help some on electrical problems and a little bit on other systems.

God Bless the USA John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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