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JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start?

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Paul Clawson

04-20-2003 06:07:05




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I need some suggestion on what to do to my 70 JD so that I can get rid of my pony motor and go to electric start. Thanks y'all




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Clooney

04-20-2003 10:32:58




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 Re: JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start? in reply to Paul Clawson, 04-20-2003 06:07:05  
Paul, that 70 can be converted to electric start by either using the 720D electric start parts [expensive], or using an aftermarket starter bracket & 12 volt starter with alternator. You can give Clyde Wilson a call [419-668-4595] for prices & what's required for the swap.
~A well done swap in my area will actually increase the selling price of a non restored 2-cylinder diesel.



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G Taylor

04-20-2003 06:26:05




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 Re: JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start? in reply to Paul Clawson, 04-20-2003 06:07:05  
The tinker conversion to electric start destroys a good part of the tractors value. Reduces it's ability to start in cold weather and costs as much or more than rebuilding a scrap starting engine.



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Paul Clawson

04-20-2003 09:13:59




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 Re: Re: JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start? in reply to G Taylor, 04-20-2003 06:26:05  
I just need to know how to do it I dont care about value



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G Taylor

04-20-2003 12:40:48




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start? in reply to Paul Clawson, 04-20-2003 09:13:59  
By the time you purchase the charging upgrades, re-wire, two very large batteries which will be replaced every couple of years, the 24V battery box, bracket,starter, HD cables, starting engine block off plates. You will be in over the price of the starting engine. Around here a running starting engine brings more bucks than a dash missing levers and the typical tinker's in a hurry conversion. If you still insist on going ahead at least keep all the parts in a sturdy box, well labelled in safe clean dry place. I keep finding tractors that "run good" but are missing a fortune in fenders, pto parts, three point hitch parts, sheet metal and starting engines. The old timer or the heir$ of the e$tate have no idea where the part$ went, parts are rusted to bits in the mud behind the shed or just plain lost. They get pretty irate when the offered price for the tractor is cut several thousand from what they seen in magazines and newspaper ads. They always answer, "but it runs good and that stuff don't cost much." If the 70D is a working tractor, the conversion money would be better spent on a 50-65 HP 20,30,40 or 50 series Mannheim built tractor brought state side from Canada.

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G-MAN

04-20-2003 13:03:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start? in reply to G Taylor, 04-20-2003 12:40:48  
I continue to be amazed by how reliable and effective starting engines were for Caterpillar and Deere for decades when the machines were in daily use, but for the average weekend user or tinkerer, they're too hard to maintain or keep in good condition. I guess when you rely on a machine to keep you in a job and put food on the table, you probably take a little better care of it than when it's just a toy to play with a few times a year. I've heard the reasons of them being hard to maintain on a tractor that is used infrequently, but to me, maintenance is maintenance. Pouring some fuel stabilizer in the pony fuel tank and taking the five minutes to start it and let it warm up every few weeks or a month is no different than maintaining batteries, cables and so forth on an electric-start tractor. My guess is that if a pony is too much hassle to maintain, you're not going to have much luck with an electric-start tractor either, especially as the electrical systems on these old tractors can be their own special nightmare to maintain. Every machine wants it's own type of special maintenance and upkeep. Although I can't fault anyone for what they decide to do to their tractor, it looks like more indications of society heading towards whatevers easiest and the most convenient.

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Rusty

04-20-2003 10:20:27




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 70 pony motor replacement with electric start? in reply to Paul Clawson, 04-20-2003 09:13:59  
There are some ads in the GM for electric conversions, includes the starter, bracket and needed wiring instructions. You will need some good high amp batteries and chargind system, probably convert to 12V Alternator with good amp output of 55amp or more. Gtaylor is partially correct about the value, although what good is a tractor if you cant start it? Good Luck



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