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Ed in IN

04-12-2003 19:16:39




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How difficult and expensive would it be to add another hydraulic scv to a '64 model 4020? I would do the work myself. Also, which is more reliable, a synchro or a powershift? Cutting hay and clipping pasture will be all it is used for. The powershift will be much easier for my wife and daughters to drive for squarebaling while our son is away in the military. Good hay help is getting harder to find. Round bales have too much waste for me, plus we only feed around 2000 square bales. The old 24T is still going strong. I may have to add a New Holland bale wagon to the equipment list to take up the slack for the lack of labor.

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Bob F.

04-13-2003 04:57:45




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 Re: 4020 questions in reply to Ed in IN, 04-12-2003 19:16:39  
Ed
I'd agree with the other posts that it isn't too difficult to add another set of outlets. I've done this myself. You will have to take the hood off to bolt the second valve box on. You will also have to pull up the platform to route the lines to the back. Outside of that the job is pretty straightforward.
I'd like to voice another opinion on the Power-Shift versus Synchro on the baler debate. I have run both setups on a 24T like you have. It would be easier for the driver to shift the Power-Shift. The problem is that unless your driver has a little experience, the guy on the rack will suffer every time the driver shifts without signaling. I have been thrown off the rack more than once from this. Still, with a little practice, the power shift should work out just fine.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Bob F.

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4020

04-12-2003 20:24:26




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 Re: 4020 questions in reply to Ed in IN, 04-12-2003 19:16:39  
Powershift has a wet clutch; however, more expensive overhaul of tranny than a synchro.



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Jim

04-12-2003 19:34:03




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 Re: 4020 questions in reply to Ed in IN, 04-12-2003 19:16:39  
Ed, maybe you can help with the synchro or powershift. I have recently come across a 4020 with the Transmission shifter on the right side of the dash, around 4 reverse and 8 forward gears, can you identify this transmission? Not sure if it is a synchro or powershift. It is a mid '60' model Tractor. The problem is it does not want to shift from reverse to forward like it should. Can you help?



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Ed in IN

04-12-2003 21:47:22




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 Re: Re: 4020 questions in reply to Jim , 04-12-2003 19:34:03  
The synchro type has park at the top with a series of zigzag slots for the shift lever to go in, 1-3-R, 2-5-R, 4-7-R and 6-8. The powershift has park at the bottom with two vertical slots for the shift lever to slide in, one for forward(8 stops), the other for reverse (4 stops).



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F-I-T

04-13-2003 08:07:26




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 Re: Re: Re: 4020 questions in reply to Ed in IN, 04-12-2003 21:47:22  
I always thought the PowerShift pattern looked liked the leter "J".

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Ed in IN

04-13-2003 12:25:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 4020 questions in reply to F-I-T, 04-13-2003 08:07:26  
Yes, it does look like a "J" with a small vertical slot at the bottom of the bend to go to the park position.



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F-I-T

04-12-2003 19:31:13




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 Re: 4020 questions in reply to Ed in IN, 04-12-2003 19:16:39  
Ed:

I can't help you on adding the SCV, but I know those who say if you can find all the parts at a boneyard that it just takes some time. I think getting all the correct tubing can be an issue.

I grew up on a '64 4020 Synchro, and the neighbor had a '66 Power-Shift. As far as handling in the field for tillage, I really couldn't see that much difference. You will get a few more HP out of the synchro range, because the hydro package in the PowerShift consumes some power. If you have to shift on the go, then the Power shift is the tranny for you. They're durable as long as they have been serviced properly, but when you're talking a 40+year old tractor, it's always a crapshoot. You have to stop to shift the synchro (unless you slide shift while in the range) but with live PTO, stopping and shifting with a baler shouldn't be all that much of an issue.

I love our old '70', but I do have very fond memories of time spent on the 4020D !

Frank-in-Tallahassee
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