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andy

01-05-2004 20:02:40




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Someone tried to move the rear wheel setting on a 620 that I recently purchased. They stripped the 3 bolts that hold the key half sleeve onto the axle. These bolts were replaced with longer bolts, lock washers and nuts were used to hold the sleeve in place. The two jack screws are also stripped. The pinion is also frozen. I would appreciate any ideas on how to get the key half of the sleeve lose. I have this side of the tractor up on blocks and have been soaking it with lubricant and tapping it with a sledge for over a month with no movement. I have not found this type of problem in the archives. Any ideas for resolving this problem would be appreciated.

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Stu

01-06-2004 13:29:06




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 Re: real wheel sleeve problem in reply to andy, 01-05-2004 20:02:40  
What would happen if you took the rim off and left the wheel on, then get a portapower hydraulic pull ram from a rental shop and hook one end through the wheel with a chain in the wheel weight holes or the rim holes, and the other end to something stationary. A tree or something. Portapower (aka frame straightners) put out lots of good slow hydraulic power. You will be pulling the wheel from the wedges rather than moving the wedges. It may wreck the pinion unit (or free it!), but its seized anyway.

Take my advice with care, I am not a HD mechanic, but its just thought.

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Clooney

01-06-2004 03:49:00




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 Re: real wheel sleeve problem in reply to andy, 01-05-2004 20:02:40  
Andy, while all that penetrating oil doesn't hurt it really doesn't soak in very far without additional heat or help..

~You do have a mess on your hands there don't you?

~You are just going to have to work at it till they come loose..

~Start by removing the 3 cap bolts on the inner side of the wheel [the other sleeve bolts].. Then if you have heat [like a big torch] heat the wheel & sleeves at the axle area,, then give the outer end of the axle a couple of good HAD swats with a 10-15 lb hammer.. [don�t over do the axle end hammering or you will be putting axle bearings in it].

~My guess is the above won�t get it loose [but it might work if you are lucky & is easy to try].

~Other than that your next move is to make a long pipe to slide over the axle shaft with a small enough OD to slip inside then wheel as it pushes the wedges [sleeves] out. Then heat the wheel sleeve area again & slip the pipe over the axle & try to drive the sleeves in..

~If the pipe trick doesn�t work you will probably have to drill out the wedge bolts & try to get functioning wedge bolts in those wheels.. The pipe & working wedge bolts will probably defiantly get those sleeves out..

~A problem like you have kind of has to be addressed by trying many things & following up on the ones that seem to be working. You must be flexible & try different things as the direction of the job changes..

Good luck & �let the beating begin�..

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Brad

01-06-2004 04:06:13




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 Re: Re: real wheel sleeve problem in reply to Clooney , 01-06-2004 03:49:00  
Andy,
I just moved mine and I used PB Penetrating Catalyst. Sprayed it around wedge on inside and into wedge bolt holes. I had to really smack mine with a mall. try the pipe over the axle. Good luck.



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