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530 Brake Bushings?? Should I replace? John T. Clooney...

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Tyler, MO

03-06-2003 10:14:34




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I am replacing the brakes on my 530. The oil seals were leaking on both sides so everything is a mess. The left hand side has some play between the shaft and the bushings. Using a dial indicator I found the play, it is .006" on the outer bushing and .010" on the inner bushing. I am wondering if I should replace the bushings or not. I suppose the question is "Is there too much slop that which will result in the failure of the seal?" Thanks for your ideas
Tyler

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Mike

03-07-2003 09:42:11




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 Re: 530 Brake Bushings?? Should I replace? John T. Clooney... in reply to Tyler, MO, 03-06-2003 10:14:34  
I would just put in new seals and run it.You need room for thick oil.Yours don't sound wore out. If you were still able to get new bushings from Deere more than likely thier presized and would be looser than yours. I have seen this alot with
the new bushings from John Deere. I once replaced a variator center pulley in a 214
lawn mower because it measured larger than specs.
guess what my new one measured larger than specs. also ,so much for quality control.

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John T

03-06-2003 12:17:18




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 Re: 530 Brake Bushings?? Should I replace? John T. Clooney... in reply to Tyler, MO, 03-06-2003 10:14:34  
Hi Tyler, your question is one of those judgment call type things, but if it were mine and I was gonna keep the tractor for years, I would re bush it (or have bushings made to fit the shaft) while youre in there anyway, so you dont have to worry about premature seal failure. Thats not so much wear it will cause a lot of a problem, but seal life coupled with the gear meshing, I sure dont want to be the one who advises "GO AHEAD LIKE IT IS" LOL. Even though the wear you described doesnt sound great (Sorry I dont have any JD tolerances though), its not gonna get any better and is tougher on the seals. Like Mike was pointing out, do your shafts seem pretty decent yet??? As long as they are smooth and polished where the seal rides and since the bushing should have worn the most,I dont expect you will need any shaft work.

Best Wishes, God Bless the USA (I guess the Pres is gonna give an address tonight?)

Ol John T Nordhoff

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Tyler, MO

03-06-2003 17:55:52




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 Re: Re: 530 Brake Bushings?? Should I replace? John T. Clooney... in reply to John T, 03-06-2003 12:17:18  
The shaft wasn't appreciably worn. I consulted a local Deere mechanic and with his advice and my own thinking left the busings alone. I made sure to fill the cavity in the seal with wheel bearing grease to ensure that the spring won't rust. I don't plan on using it much so I hope it will turn out fine. And if it does go out again, at least it will be easy to do with anti-sieze. Thanks for the advice Tyler

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John T

03-07-2003 06:49:40




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 Re: Re: Re: 530 Brake Bushings?? Should I replace? John T. Clooney... in reply to Tyler, MO, 03-06-2003 17:55:52  
Yeah, if its not used all that much it should be a long time before the new seal might give problems. Take care. John T



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MIKE HANLEY

03-06-2003 11:28:39




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 Re: 530 Brake Bushings?? Should I replace? John T. Clooney... in reply to Tyler, MO, 03-06-2003 10:14:34  
Our local J.D. dealer works with a local machine shop. We had our 630 done this year and had wear both on the bushings and the shafts. They sent out the shafts and had them built up and then turned back down to the new bushings and seal. There was also wear on the brake shoes where the push ajusting pins notchs into the shoes. They built up the notchs on the shoes with weld. We also had the drums turned down. Amizing how much more ajustment you have when those notchs are back where they belong. They painted everything inside the brake except where the shoe meets the drum. The ajusters. pins and rollers were all coated with anti-sees. I would have to look up the total bill but I think it was $40 per drum to turn and $50 per shaft for the maching.

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