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Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover

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AlbertoV05

03-03-2003 16:41:21

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Is there a passageway between the first reduction gear cover where gear oil can "overflow" into the transmission case?
If so, couldn't a person make sure the first reduction gear housing AND transmission case were BOTH full by adding gear lube through the filler on top of the first reduction gear housing until it "reaches the level of the transmission filler plug" (as stated in the Operator's Manual) near the bottom of the tractor?
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Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-03-2003 17:44:09

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Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-03-2003 16:41:21

Al, the basic answer is yes. The only problem is there isn't a big opening between the 1st reduction cover & trans so the gear oil won't flow into the trans very fast & the 1st reduction cover would overflow if you poured all the oil in it at once. If the 1st reduction cover is overfull & you start the tractor you will have one heck of a mess at the clutch pulley area...

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AlbertoV05

03-03-2003 17:57:28

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Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to Clooney, 03-03-2003 17:44:09

Point well taken, Clooney.
Thanks!

By the way (regarding my bearing quill cover on the 60)....I went to try and install that quill bearing cover today to check to see how many shims I would need and could not get it to even start back in! I cleaned both the external surface of the quill and the interior surface of the transmission case, used some fine grit emery cloth (took measures that no filings would fall into tranny case), even lubed both surfaces up well with Aero-Kroil and still no go!
I'm thinking of two options when I go to re-assemble:
1. Put the heat gun on the tranny case "race" surface to try and expand it a bit
and/or
2. Install some 1/2" x 4" bolts through the bearing quill (4" would be long enough to "catch some threads" in the case housing yet short enough to be able to remove once the quill is started) and use them to draw the quill in.
What do you think?

Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-03-2003 18:04:44

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Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-03-2003 17:57:28

Al, those usually just slide back in by hand. Are you sure the differential bearing is centered in the bore? Look into the main case hole then roll the tractor forward or backwards until the bearing is up & centered in the hole.
~Be careful trying to pull that quill in with bolts, those ears bend & break easily. A rubber hammer should do the trick..

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AlbertoV05

03-03-2003 18:12:49

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to Clooney, 03-03-2003 18:04:44

Understood about the ears bending, Clooney. Rubber hammer should make it much more difficult for me to break something!!! What about using the bolts as more of an "alignment tool" in case I'm starting her crooked? Tried numerous times thinking I was trying to start it in crooked; but it's got me beat! (so far)
I can't even get it to START in; even 1/4"!!! I'm nowhere near getting close to contacting that diff bearing.

Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-04-2003 03:12:46

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-03-2003 18:12:49

Al, how hard did it come out? If it came out easy it should go in easy. You aren't working with a cold tractor & a warm quill are you? Let the temperature equalize before installing. Maybe you have put a burr on the main case hole or quill, look for any damage.

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AlbertoV05

03-04-2003 14:14:18

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to Clooney, 03-04-2003 03:12:46

Clooney: THANKS for the help!
I just got her back together and none too soon; we're supposed to get 4" - 7" of snow tonight. I'll know after I plow (and generate some heat in that gearhousing) if she's stopped seeping!
Any symptoms I should look for if I put too many/too few shims back in her?
Thanks again!

Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-04-2003 16:18:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-04-2003 14:14:18

Al, if you have it too tight you will never know it. Eventually it will wear the bearings if too tight. If the bearings are in good shape I usually set them a little on the tight side anyway....

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AlbertoV05

03-04-2003 19:30:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to Clooney, 03-04-2003 16:18:55

Thanks (again) Clooney!
She plowed snow great tonight; and NO evidence of leaks either!
That Loc-Tite 518 was some "different" stuff to work with; especially when putting all those shims/gaskets together in an unheated machine shed on a dirt floor!
Would this gasket sealer be a good thing to use on head gaskets (Model 60) should I ever need to change one?
Thanks again!

Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-05-2003 04:41:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Model 60 First Reduction Gear Cover in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-04-2003 19:30:21

Al, that Loc-Tite 518 is an anaerobic gasket eliminator/reinforcement & works extremely good on flange gaskets & covers. I use it lot when I want to completely remove all the gaskets or just use steel shims without any paper gaskets. It wouldn't be a good choice for a head gasket sealer though.

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