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Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill

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AlbertoV05

03-02-2003 15:39:01




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I've got a 1955 Model 60 that's seeping oil from the Differential Bearing Quill #A3262R. If I remove the three bolts to remove the quill "cover" and change the gasket how many parts will fall out on the ground? : )
Thanks for your help!

Al in Iowa




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Clooney

03-02-2003 15:47:41




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 Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-02-2003 15:39:01  
Al, nothing should fall out, if parts fall out the diff bearing is worn out. Remember that gasket is also a shim so try to keep the thickness the same. Be sure to use sealer on the bolts as I think a couple of those bolts go into the oil area.
~There is good chance the diff bearing & diff will fall down & make reinstalling the cover difficult, if that happens just roll the tractor a little until the bearing centers back up in the bore...

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AlbertoV05

03-02-2003 16:38:41




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 Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to Clooney, 03-02-2003 15:47:41  
Thanks, Clooney!
Will the gasket/shim(s) hopefully be stamped (I assume they are metal?) with a part number so I can order the same one(s) to re-install?
Thanks for the tip about the sealer on the bolts and for making sure I have the tractor in a position to be able to "roll" it to re-center that bearing. She's got rear tires filled with calcium chloride and tire chains, so I think my 4WD will come in handy if/when I have to "roll" it a bit!
Thanks again for your help!

Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-02-2003 17:03:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-02-2003 16:38:41  
Al, there [WAS] both thick & thin gaskets & steel shims offered. Your steel shims will be reusable & the gaskets will probably be superceded to all thin.
~What I usually do is install the quill without any gaskets or shims & push it in as tight as I can by hand [no bolts], then use feeler gages to measure the gap between the quill & trans case, then add .002"-.003" to that measurement & install that amount of shims + gaskets. I usually try to use just steel shims [if possible] with Loc-Tite 518 on each side of the shim. The shim with a good sealer won't compress when tightened & won't leak later due to gasket seep. I will not use a stack of thin gaskets as that is just asking for a leak later & you CAN'T control the amount of crush when tightened....

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AlbertoV05

03-02-2003 18:40:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to Clooney, 03-02-2003 17:03:22  
Clooney,
I looked on Deere's parts website and found the following:
My parts manual describes:
#A406R as a "Gasket (thin)" (Deere Website cost = $2.49)
#A612R as a "Gasket (thick)" (Deere Website cost = $3.99) However #A612R is described on the website as a "SHIM, .010" thick"?
#A611R as a "Steel Shim (thick)" .018" thick (Deere Website cost = $12.49)
#A610R has been replaced by #A611R.
Will/should the gaskets be in decent enough shape that I will be able to read a part number off them?
I have this feeling of impending doom!!!!!

Al in Iowa

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Clooney

03-02-2003 19:00:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-02-2003 18:40:02  
Al, this is a very easy thing to do. Because of bearing wear you will most likely need less shims than are there. Install the quill with NO gaskets or shims [no bolts] then use a feeler gage pack [or even the removed shims] & just make the shim pack a little thicker than the gap between the quill & case. ~You won't find any numbers on those shims or gaskets. You will need to mic them for thickness.
~I have found some over the years that have enough bearing wear that no shims or gaskets are even required [just one thin gasket with sealer].

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AlbertoV05

03-02-2003 19:12:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to Clooney, 03-02-2003 19:00:43  
OK Clooney!
Here's the dumb question of the hour: Assuming that I do have to use at least one shim, should the gasket go next to the bearing quill or next to the final drive case?
Thanks!

Al in Iowa



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Clooney

03-03-2003 03:22:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-02-2003 19:12:39  
Al, if possible use a thin gasket on each side of the shim. If that isn't possible then it doesn't matter & use a good gasket replacement sealer on each side. Something like Lcc-Tite 518. Don't use a silicone sealer.



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AlbertoV05

03-03-2003 11:49:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Seeping at #A3262R Differential Bearing Quill in reply to Clooney, 03-03-2003 03:22:37  
Clooney,
OK. I've got her out and parts on order. It came apart in this order:
First, against the bearing quill was the (thick)gasket, then a thin steel shim, 1 paper shim/gasket, another thin steel shim, 2 more paper shims/gaskets and finally a thick steel shim against the tractor case.
Hope that 1 small tube of "Anaerobic Gasket Maker" will coat all these pieces!
I'll use some thread sealer on the bolts when I get to putting her back together.
Thanks!

Al in Iowa

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