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Ty

03-01-2003 05:51:02




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You said back in the day that you ran the diesel with diesel fuel in the oil to clean it up. How did that process go again? Can't wait to get my shiny green 70 out of hibernation and a good oil change. Want the engine to stay clean not like it was a year ago when I tore apart and found sludge city! Also would it help to drain some oil maybe 1/2 from the pony and add diesel to that because it was a greasy mess too?

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03-01-2003 07:36:38




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 Re: ? for F-I-T in reply to Ty, 03-01-2003 05:51:02  
If you got all of the sludge out of it last year, and refilled it with a quality diesel engine oil, I don't think I'd worry too much about flushing it again. Today's oils are several light years ahead of what was avaiable in the 50s, and will keep the engine much cleaner and keep the contaminants in suspension. There's no fault in the engine design that caused Deere to recommend flushing - it was due to the oils used back then. It's always nice to follow service guidelines, but I doubt if flushing is necessary at all anymore, and certainly not every 120 hours. That would be every two weeks on a heavily-used tractor. The low sulfur fuels available today also greatly decrease the tendency of the oil to break down. Flushing probably helped longevity back then, but I don't think I'd run fuel-diluted engine oil in my tractor on a regular basis, as it won't do the bearings and the like any good at all, even if for only a few minutes. Quality oil changed at the correct intervals and warming the tractor up good when it's started should be all that's required for maintenance in this day and age.

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03-01-2003 06:28:44




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 Re: ? for F-I-T in reply to Ty, 03-01-2003 05:51:02  
Ty:

If you have the '70' Diesel owner's manual, OMR2032M, the crankcase flushing is covered under 120 hour service on page 73 for the diesel engine, and under 500 hour service for the pony on page 75.

For the Diesel it reads:

"FLUSHING THE CRANKCASE"

During a period of several months of operation, sludge may form in the crankcase, and other foreign matter may collect on the engine parts. Make it a practice to flush the crankcase thoroughly at regular periods. Distillate or Kerosene are good flushing and cleaning agents. After draining the crankcase and removing old oil filter element, replace oil filter cap, pour 1 gallon of flushing agent into the crankcase, run the engine a few minutes, then drain out the flushing agent.

For the Pony:

SERVICING CRANKING ENGINE CRANKCASE

Loosen plug screw and pull it out as far as possible. The oil will drain into the diesel engine crankcase; therefore the operation should be performed before draining the diesel engine oil. Replace plug and pour 1 quart of flushing oil into crankcase. Start engine and run it for 2 or 3 minutes. Drain flushing oil, replace drain plug, and fill crankcase with good quality new oil to full mark on dip stick. When checking oil level on dip dtick, filler cap must be screwed down tight. Crankcase capacity is one quart.

Since we didn't often have Kerosene around, I always used #2 diesel fuel, and it seemed to clean very well. It really seemed to work on this old '70' of mine. After 7,000 hours, it had virtually no cam wear, and very little crank pin wear. The crankcase was very, very, clean.

I use this method on most all my engines. My pride and joy is my '88 Plymouth Voyage that I bought new, and now I only drive when I'm home on weekends. It just turned 278,000 (I'm trying for 300,000), and has never had the valve covers off.

Hope this helps !

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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