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435 diesel tractor pros and cons

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D Brown

02-26-2003 01:56:01




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I am looking at a 435 diesel tractor that has not run in several years. what is the pros and cons of this tractor. dont know much about them.




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G Taylor

02-26-2003 08:15:37




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 Re: 435 diesel tractor pros and cons in reply to D Brown, 02-26-2003 01:56:01  
About 33HP, built for 11 months and semi rare due to various reasons. Can be had with live pto, remote hydraulic outlets and power steering. Worth at least as much as a 320 in similar condition. Will deafen any operator who doesn't know enough to wear hearing protection. The vibration will overcome any prostate problems. If over ballasted then geared down and lugged the ring and pinion could be worn out.Worse with old low grade trans lube full of water. Open the three bolt cover above the pto shaft and look at the r&p with a strong flashlight. A HD r&P from early 1010's bolts right in and is indestructible. The 17 to 1 compression "S" series Detroit's don't start in cool cold weather without a block heater. Ether just blows gaskets and blowers to bits. Many have had the front axle casting broken. It is "C" shaped on the rowcrop utility chassis tractors. An impatient operator with a chain wrapped the wrong place around the front axle will bust a $350.00US piece.
The cure, ballast to 4500lbs at most, install 21 to 1 "N" sleeves,pistons,N35 injectors, new valves,new seats,valve guides and a high torque starter with a 1000CCA battery. Use a block heater at 32F or less. Grinding valves and seats just sinks the installed height and makes starting worse instead of better by dropping the compression ratio. The upper front nose piece is made from unatanium.
Plenty of 435's in service with knowledgeable operators. None left operational with crude hacks onboard. I've updated mine and it would be the last or 2nd last to sell if need be.Close 2nd to Dad's 70D standard he purchased as a young man.

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will

02-26-2003 14:51:59




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 Re: Re: 435 diesel tractor pros and cons in reply to G Taylor, 02-26-2003 08:15:37  
G. Taylor, you seem to be the most knowledgeable person that I have ever heard speak about the 435. I dont seem to understand what you are saying about the starting fluid problem. My father has owned log skidders with a 53 series engines for some time. We have always used starting fluid on cold days because there is no electricity in the woods. We have never had any engine problems especially what you were describing about gaskets (head im guessing) or blower problems. The only thing that I thought you could be talking about would be that the explosion from the starting fluid might still be in ignition after the piston had already retreated past the holes in the piston liner where the engine aspirates causing it to makes its way back inside the blower. I also have never seen a gasket blown from using starting fluid. I have seen lots of engines what we call vapor locked, but never blown gaskets as a result of starting fluid. I would be interested to know more about these problems if you feel the urge to tell. Im always up for learning something new.

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G Taylor

02-27-2003 08:42:36




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 Re: Re: Re: 435 diesel tractor pros and cons in reply to will, 02-26-2003 14:51:59  
Thanks but most on this site will agree on my possession of a PHD in Bovine Scatology. The 435's used an oilbath aircleaner.Spraying ether into the intake just absorbed the ether into the oilbath. When grossly loaded the ether will begin to seep through and start the engine if the battery isn't already dead. Likely being tow started by now. Now with lots of airflow as the engine starts and with aircleaner turbulence the engine is hit with a lethal detonation dose of ether.

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will

02-27-2003 12:34:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 435 diesel tractor pros and cons in reply to G Taylor, 02-27-2003 08:42:36  
G Taylor, i don't have a PHD in Bovine Scatology but i am trying to become somewhat knowledgeable in the area. Thanks for explaining about the oil bath air cleaner on 435's. I didn't even think about them having oil bath cleaners. Thanks again for the info.



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