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john b.

02-23-2003 17:22:29




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I have a jd 60 that the radiator is starting to
leak. I have taken radiators out and taken them to
get fixed, but thought I might rebuild this one myself. It looks like it would not be too hard
by looking at a dealers repair manual and parts
books. I am wondering if any one has rebuilt a radiator for a jd 60 and if you have any tips or
suggestions. Or if I should just let a repair shop
fix it for me. Also, would it be best to buy a rebuilt water pump or rebuild the one I have.

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G-MAN

02-24-2003 10:46:26




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 Re: jd 60 radiator in reply to john b., 02-23-2003 17:22:29  
Just a few things to ad to the already good advice posted below. If your tanks are badly corroded on the rails where the core bolts up, you can use JB Weld to fill in the pitting, and then smooth up the surface with a Scotchbrite disk on a die grinder. I did that on my "G" with good results - it didn't leak, although I thought it would at the time I did it. The other thing I highly recommend is using anti-sieze compound on all hardware during reassembly. It acts as a lubricant to help protect those old threads in the castings and will greatly ease disassembly at a future date - even if it's 40 years from now. On that note, I would also highly recommend chasing the threads in the tanks with a bottoming tap or a thread chaser. It will save you lots of time and aggravation when reinstalling bolts, and produces a more professional job.

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RLA

02-24-2003 09:49:13




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 Re: jd 60 radiator in reply to john b., 02-23-2003 17:22:29  
I didn't realize it at the time but "lady luck" must have been riding on my shoulder when I recently replaced the radiator core in a 60. No broken bolts and every hole lined up perfectly. I did break the rod that runs from the bell housing on the thermostat to the shutters but that was an easy fix.



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gene

02-23-2003 18:22:46




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 Re: jd 60 radiator in reply to john b., 02-23-2003 17:22:29  
i am sorry to do this but i have to disagree with some of the other comments. first you will break some, that i agree with. but heat is your best freind on broken bolts. i heat the bolt just up to the red point then i let it cool, if it broken enough so as to get a vise grip on it great. If not then get your welder out. take a washer an bend one side. put the hole over the broken bolt an weld it on it. let it cool. then go very, i mean very easy, an just work it back on forth. your may not think that you are gettin anywhere, but i have got everyone one out this way in quite a few raditors. i will say i have had to drill a few, but not that many. johndeeregene
just my 2 cents worth

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Clooney

02-23-2003 18:10:19




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 Re: jd 60 radiator in reply to john b., 02-23-2003 17:22:29  
John, those radiators aren't that bad to do, just heavy & awkward. The bolts do break easily & there is a good chance you will break some when disassembling it. You can buy a complete bolt kit from Correct Connection [814-926-2777].

~While you can try heat & penetrating oil, some of those bolts will still probably break & have to be drilled out. I used to try to fool around & work those bolts out using heat, & beating, & oil, & time, but found the heat required was hard on those brittle castings so now I just put a wrench to those bolts & if they come loose good & if not I just drill them out & re-thread the holes.

~If you are good at drilling bolts out, the radiator job won't be too bad. If you take it in for repair they will probably charge you extra for any bolts they have to drill & re-thread anyhow. ~Just use a good sealer on the gaskets & as Pete said you will probably have to drill & match the new core holes to your castings.

~On the water pump, if it's a late pump using the late seal it isn't too bad as long as the housing isn't to badly scored & the seal fits good. You really should have access to an arbor press to do the job correctly without pump damage. If it's an early pump & you haven't done one before there is a good chance you will ruin the seal pressing it together if it doesn't stay in the slots on that pump, you need a slow steady push to get it assembled correctly & I would recommend you send that one out or get a rebuilt..... .....

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John T

02-23-2003 17:47:05




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 Re: jd 60 radiator in reply to john b., 02-23-2003 17:22:29  
Hey there John, They are not all that hard to rebuild, as far as tips as you asked, I go real easy and milk them back and forth SLOWLYYYYY Y and use heat (around the cast thread embedded area, not on bolt which softens it) to remove all them darn bolts to seperate the top n bottom tanks. If you just put a big wrench on em and turn them fast, they may break off, where slow milking in and out plus heat may get them out okay. I always clean and wire brush and polish to a good degree the tank and core surfaces to get a good seal.

As far as water pumps, if you use an air powered vibratign air hammer blunt end, the pressed on pulley and impeller will come off, and be sure the flat impeller surface where it meets the seal is smooth and flat and polished and the shaft is smooth and polished where it seals also.

Good Luck to ya n God Bless America, Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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PeteNY

02-23-2003 17:40:37




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 Re: jd 60 radiator in reply to john b., 02-23-2003 17:22:29  
John, Have you ever done a JD radiator before? While JD has some engineering accomplishments that make them easier to work on than other colors, radiators are NOT one of these feats! Where I just pop the whole thing out on our IH, Ford, AC, Case, and MM tractors and take them to the radiator shop, the same cannot be done on our Johnnies! The heavy cast tanks come out with the core, then when ya get done removing all the little bolts that hold the tanks on, ya run the tanks down to the machime shop to have all the broken studs drilled out and heli-coiled, then when your new core comes in (get the one with more tubes) you have to redrill at least 3/4 of the pre drilled holes in the tank flanges to match your tanks, then heft the whole thing back up and in! not hard but time consuming and irritating. BUT...when it's time to do the clutch on one, I am thankful that I don't have to split it! Pete

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