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How to check a mag without it being on a tractor?.

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Jonathan

02-21-2003 15:59:16




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I have got a wico JD B magneito and I want to find out if it's ok or not. Is there a way to check it?.
thanks in advance




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John T

02-21-2003 18:12:21




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 Re: how to check a mag without it being on a tractor?. in reply to Jonathan, 02-21-2003 15:59:16  
Good Evening Jonathan, Sure you can check them off a tractor, they are a totally self contained unit that produces its own energy, free of any external power source like a battery.

1. One way with the cap still on, is to use a good plug wire and a good spark plug and with the plugs side steel frame up against the metal part of the mag, turn the mag and when the srping snaps over, the plug should produce a spark. If your looking at the rear of the mag, it would be turning its coupler CCW which winds up the spring and then it should snap over and fire the plug. Both terminals should fire the plug, one on the first snap over and then the other trminal shouuld fire the next time.

2. If neither terminal will fire a [plug, it could be a spring and trip assembly problem, becasue it has to be fairly hard to wind up and then release rapidly. If turnign it feels easy and it doesnt seem to wind and trip a srping, its not correct and wont work.

3. Its possible the mags points and condensor and coil could be good and it still fires, but wont fire out through the plug wire terminal. That could be caused by a bad cap or rotor. To check that, remove the cap and rotor, and attach a wire to the mags steel frame and then to within about 1/8 inch away from the little steel button on the side of the coil where the caps spring fits. Thats the coils high voltage output. Then, when you wind and trip the spring, a spark should jump between the wires end and that coil output button.

4. If she wont fire there or anywhere and the spring and trip are okay, it could be bad points or coil or condensor or a short. The points need to be gapped at 0.015 and clean and free of any pits or burns or corrosion or bad oxide coating.

Hope this is some help as to how to test it both out the plug wire terminals and the coil itself. If you have any more questions, post back and let us all know what you found out and we will try and get you going.

Good Luck n God Bless

Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Gordon

02-21-2003 16:53:42




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 Re: how to check a mag without it being on a tractor?. in reply to Jonathan, 02-21-2003 15:59:16  
Hold the mag in a vise firm not tight (can brake case). Put a wire in the cap. With a vise grip on the coupling turn it untill it snaps watch for spark if not try other hole. You might have it to try more than once. The spark should be blue if it is dirty yellow points are bad.



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Clooney

02-21-2003 16:42:26




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 Re: how to check a mag without it being on a tractor?. in reply to Jonathan, 02-21-2003 15:59:16  
Jonathan, sure is.... just stick a piece of wire in one of the cap plug wire towers & bend it to within 1/8"-3/16" of the metal mag case, then hold the mag with the impulse cup facing you & with the mag held at the same attitude as it is mounted in the tractor, then turn the impulse drive cup counter clock wise [to the left]. As you turn the impulse cup you should feel the impulse drive pawls catch on the stop ring & as you turn the drive cup farther you should feel the impulse spring wind up then release with a distinct snap....At that time you should see a nice blue spark between the wire & mag case. Then do the same for the other cap wire tower.... If you get a good spring wind up, & a good solid snap, with a good blue spark between the wire & case, the mag is likely a good hot one.

~The above holds true for the Wico C & X & most mags but if by chance you have a different type or a gear drive mag, post back as it could be a little different.

~Keep in mind the above test just shows if the mag produces a spark that will run the tractor, it doesn't show if the mag has the correct lag timing, bad oil seals, or worn shaft & bushings. [important for long term reliability].

~If you don't get a blue spark to jump that wire to case 1/8"-3/16" gap, post back & give us the mag model & what it is or isn't doing & we will try to furnish places to check for no spark condition.

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F-I-T

02-21-2003 16:38:51




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 Re: how to check a mag without it being on a tractor?. in reply to Jonathan, 02-21-2003 15:59:16  
Jonathan:

Someone will no doubt jump in here with more information, but until then, yes, you can check the mag while it is off of the tractor.

If you have an operator's manual, the procedure is described in there.

Basically, after setting the points correctly, you clamp the lower mounting lug of the mag in a soft-jawed vise. then you put a wire in one of the plug wire holes (top is fine), and bend the wire around until it is about 1/4" away from the mag frame. Then you slowly turn the mag in the running direction, and when you get the drive lug almost to the horizontal, the impulse spring will trip, the mag will go "snap !", and it should spark.

I purposely did not tell you which direction to turn the mag, as I only THINK I remember that it is counter-clockwise when viewed from behind (pretty sure I'm right there, though). But the best way to know is to have someone else here tell you, or move the engine a bit in the running direction (top of the flywheel forward), and note the direction that the governor drive lug turned. Turn the mag in the same direction.

Oh, and don't get yourself between the wire and mag frame....just in case it's working well !!

Hope that helps.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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Bobby lightning

02-21-2003 16:34:39




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 Re: how to check a mag without it being on a tractor?. in reply to Jonathan, 02-21-2003 15:59:16  
Put a plug wire in the end and hold the contact end while spinning the mag with the other. May take 1 or two tries hope it works..well, kinda.



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