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4010 TurboCharger

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Jack

02-18-2003 15:19:05




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Can I add a turbocharger to my 4010 Diesel? What all would I need and how hard would it be.
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Heat Houser

02-19-2003 19:17:41




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 Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to Jack, 02-18-2003 15:19:05  
There were some major differences between a 4010 and 4020. The first is the rear axle diameter. The 4010 was the same size as the 60,70, 620,720, 603,730 two cylinders. The 4020 is larger to handle the extra torque. The other major difference was many of the casting on the 4020 were poured using nodular iron, not gray iron (cast iron). Nodular has a higher strength and is why the load sensing frame on the 4020 does not break and on the 4010 it does (grey iron).
I have replaced the frame on my 4010 with a 4020 as I have broken mine. The drawbar is also thicker on the 4020.
I would recommend that you keep the tractor at the original horsepower/torque levels. Many smart people spent many hours looking at the stress levels in the components and then designed to a certain acceptable level. As stress levels are increased, longevity really takes it on the chin.

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C Butler

02-18-2003 16:05:51




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 Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to Jack, 02-18-2003 15:19:05  
Yes you can quite easily install a turbocharger on a 4010, however if you intend to work it to it's new power level, you need to upgrade the cooling system with a seven bladed fan & matching shroud, as supplied by M&W Gear Co. You will also need one of the big aluminium oil pans also by M&W to help keep the oil cooler. If you don't do this you run a high risk of quickly scoring a piston. One of the few shortcomings of the 4010's was a shortage of cooling capacity-both water & oil cooling. If these steps are taken & you use a little judgment in operation& keep it serviced regularly with top grade oil it should last many thousands of hours. I have over 4000hrs on mine since it was turboed & it still seems as good as the day it was upgraded. As an aside note, when I turboed it I DIDN'T turn up the pump, but hp went from 90 to 110 & DROPPED 1/2 gallon per hr of fuel consumption. The only thing I can think of as to why is that much more air being pushed into the engine allowed the fuel to burn more efficiently.

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G-MAN

02-18-2003 16:14:56




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 Re: Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to C Butler, 02-18-2003 16:05:51  
That's interesting how your fuel consumption dropped. I would venture to guess that your tractor was over-fueled to begin with and that adding the turbo did just what you said - allowed it to burn the extra fuel and become more efficient. That's also a good point about scoring a piston. The 4010 engine doesn't have the piston cooling jets to spray oil on the bottom of the pistons and help cool them down like later turbocharged engines do. You wouldn't think that little bit of oil on the bottom of the piston would do much, but I can tell you from experience that an engine that is designed with them doesn't last long without them. I've often wondered about the overall effectiveness of those turbo kits. I know they increase power, but I've seen several naturally-aspirated 4020s in good shape produce 110-115 horsepower, without all the hassle of the turbo-kits. I guess it just depends on how attached a guy is to his 4010.

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C Butler

02-18-2003 16:39:17




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 Re: Re: Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to G-MAN, 02-18-2003 16:14:56  
Yeah I'm sort of attached to the old girl-I've had it since I bought it on an auction in Dec of '67, was the first really good tractor I ever owned. You're right it WAS over fueled& I scored a piston without a turbo, so when I put sleeves& pistons in it I decided to help out the cooling at the same time. I also know of a 4020 that turns 112 without a turbo, but I understand that 4020's have bigger valves& also a few other changes, that allows them to breath a little easier even without a turbo.

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G-MAN

02-18-2003 16:01:44




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 Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to Jack, 02-18-2003 15:19:05  
Your best bet is to find one of the M&W kits that was designed specifically for that purpose, rather than trying to piece everything together. I believe there were a number of options, such as a finned aluminum oil pan that held more oil and helped cool it some. I think there was also some kind of special fan available. Some calling around to salvage yards and the like will likely find you everything you need. Keep in mind that you also won't see much if any power gain without doing some injection pump work. All the turbo does is supply more air. Until you increase your fuel delivery, your power level won't rise. I would also recommend pulling the nozzles and having them checked and rebuilt or replaced at that time. That would also be a good time to run a compression check and see just what kind of shape your engine is in. If it's not up to snuff internally, you may not see a big improvement in power by adding the modifications listed above. And that turbo system isn't going to turn your 4010 into a 4840. 110-120 horsepower is probably about what you should shoot for, because that engine isn't designed to be turboed, and you might run into head gasket sealing issues and other problems if you really work it. Turbocharging also increases the load on the cooling system, lubrication and the rest of the powertrain, so make sure your tractor is in good shape. Have you considered trading your 4010 in on a 4320 or something similar that is factory turbocharged?

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Jack

02-18-2003 19:01:15




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 Re: Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to G-MAN, 02-18-2003 16:01:44  
Well everything is in great shape has the 4020 upgrade in it and injectors and pumps have also been gone thru. Was just kinda curious as I have seen some ads with it done. Would not mind doing wheelies out in the field.



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G-MAN

02-19-2003 07:35:12




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 Re: Re: Re: 4010 TurboCharger in reply to Jack, 02-18-2003 19:01:15  
If you've basically got a 4020 engine in it, you should be able to easily get 110 horsepower out of it without a turbo and without drastically overfueling the engine. As far as wheelies in the field, you'll likely need closer to 150 horsepower or more for that, and your 4010 clutch, trans and rear-end isn't going to like that too much.



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