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Drying corn or storage options what would you do..

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Errin OH

10-31-2005 12:50:03




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This really doesn't fit here, not really any place else either. In the end the real question is somewhat equipment related. So here it go's....

I will be harvesting corn this year. As I raise feeders I was thinking it might be a good thing to keep enough for my feed needs. My local elevator is running 1.50 buy/in - 4.50 sell/out right now. Only feeding a little more than bushel a day right now. To sell my 400 and buy back 400 gonna cost me $1200. 1200 for drying it down a few % seems a bit much (my target is 16-18% off the stalk). Now I can bank it @ a nickle or so a bushel per month plus in/out fees and a drying charge. Near as I can figure, the needed 400 bushel would cost me about $600 to bank it in a year. But thats just a guess with a little ed-a-ma-fa-cation mixed in. I do have access to a 2500bu bin with floor dry but I have to pay for all 2500bu and an electric charge. Or, I can try to keep it in house (most of it anyway) it cost me 0 extra dollars. Other than some electricity.

Here is the delemia.

The bulk feed bin has a cone bottom and no real good way to inject air evenly and/or draw feed at the same time. Talking to a neighbor he mention putting an eight inch tube down the middle and fan on top (air fed in top anyway). Air would be forced down to the bottom and filter it's way back up. OK, sounds good but would it work? N'other option my be to get in there and seal it up (best I can anyhow) and not worry about the extra few %. But, other than, you do not want any air to get to it, I know nothing bout storing corn like silage.

What to do????? ??

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Heat Houser

11-01-2005 17:46:02




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
According to my chart, 18% moisture corn at 60 degrees F will keep 65 days with 1/2% dry matter loss (Still good corn, not spoiled). You would have to maintain it at 60 F or below. If it warms up, oops, more loss. I would leave it on a wagon and tape a thermometer to a rod and poke it into the corn. Moniter it every week. If it heats, transfer it to another wagon. By stirring it around, many times it will stop heating. If you get it to 34-36F, (refrigerator temps), it will keep all winter.

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John e.c.MI

11-01-2005 07:38:11




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 Becareful... in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
The problem with your hopper bin is that you will have a layer against the walls of the cone that will not move until the bin is nearly empty and you will have a hard time getting air to this part of the bin. ANother thing to remember is how are you testing the moisture on this corn? Corn through the combine is usually a couple of points wetter than a few hand shelled ears, your 18% corn may very well wind up being 20+. How about hauling your wet corn in and hauling dry corn home at the same time? You will avoid the storage charges and maybe you can get them to drop the load out as well. You really need corn down around 14% if you want to keep it around for a year.

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paul

11-01-2005 05:45:16




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
Well you are doing good to get it that dry in your location on the stalk. There are years her ein MN that getting it to 22% is a difficult task! Folks in NE just don"t understand what humidity & cold is. :) :) :)

The airiation tube should work for your 400 bu.

I frequently store 1200 bu of 19% moisture or less corn in a wooden bin through the winter, it is 50 degrees or colder going in, and of course we have very cold winters all winter, & I want it 75% gone by March. In a metal bin is more risky, & if you get a real mild spell in your "winter" might not be so good.

Ear corn is an option, if you are feeding cttle, would be better feed for them, & you can pick it at 24-28% moisture, store it in a crib that allows airflow.

Do not try to seal up your metal bin, you will _not_ make silage, you will make a mess & rust out your bin. Silage & silos are not that simple, you need 50% moisture, you need totally air-tight, and you need a way to unload the caked-tight results. Regular metal bins do not take the acids formed either.

The airiation tube sounds about the best for your needs, tho I"d look to store it as is in a wooden bin or else pick it on the ear if those are possibilities.

--->Paul

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Allan in NE

11-01-2005 05:48:29




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to paul, 11-01-2005 05:45:16  
Hey Paul,

'Course on the other side of the coin, we don't know 'bout those kinds of yields you guys get either. :>)

Allan



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paul

11-01-2005 06:03:57




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Allan in NE, 11-01-2005 05:48:29  
Or mud.... You got it. :)

I hear it gets kinda windy down there too. Had a 80-90 mph downburst over the farm this year, has been a real long fall trying to harvest 90% of my corn. Goose-neck does not begin to describe it. Even some of the beans laid over.

--->Paul



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Allan in NE

11-01-2005 06:34:10




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to paul, 11-01-2005 06:03:57  
Now, I don't know this fer a fact or not, but I've heard thru the grapevine that there are people who put four wheel assit on a combine.

They must use it in the wintertime to move snow or something? Beats me. :>)

Allan



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Leroy

11-01-2005 16:46:50




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Allan in NE, 11-01-2005 06:34:10  
Probably 90% of the new combines sold here in northwest Ohio- Northeast Indiana are equiped with 4 wheel drive to get thru the fall mud and I am afraid I am going to need it on my 1969 model J D to get my corn out or wait till ground is frozen sollid, since Katrina I have had over 15" of rain and lost count how much I actually had and had rain agin this morning with water standing



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paul

11-01-2005 09:15:23




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Allan in NE, 11-01-2005 06:34:10  
Couple years ago a fellow 40 miles north of me welded a bracket on the back of his combine, & used the silage blade on his 4wd tractor to push the combine through the wet spots. Had a few 1000 acres of beans to get out, had to roll.

Tracks are popular options every 4-5 years as well.

--->Paul



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ejr-IA.

10-31-2005 18:36:02




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
Don't know how big your bulk bin is but if it would hold the corn you need to feed I'd op for the aireation tube.



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kyhayman

10-31-2005 18:35:43




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
I'd sell the corn and buy soy hulls and corn glutten.



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fixerupper

10-31-2005 17:21:51




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
When I used to grind feed for hogs I put wet corn (19% or under) in a 3200 bushel bin with no air with no problems as long as it was below 50 degrees temp going in and I kept using a little out of it all of the time. This way the cold corn from the top is drawn into the middle of the bin. I just had to make sure it was gone by march. I live in NW Iowa. Jim



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Allan in NE

10-31-2005 14:41:24




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 Re: Drying corn or storage options what would you in reply to Errin OH, 10-31-2005 12:50:03  
Errin,

It is common practice out in this country to just wait the extra 3 days til it is down to an honest 15.5 before rollin' the combine. In another two days with any luck, it is down to 13 and no worrys at all anyway. Fact is, they are just starting to combine corn out in this area as of yesterday.

There is no rule that says you have to pick it wet just 'cause all the big neighbors do it that way.

But if frequent foul weather is a factor in your area, you can buy those "screw in" type aerators with the little 1/4 horse motor and fan on the upper end.

And another idea, if you have access to a wooden bin, they tend to pull the moisture better than a metal bin.

Allan

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