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SA shane

10-26-2005 00:12:09




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G'day,
I was wondering if someone could help me solve a problem with my old Ford baler. It keeps on putting out banana bales. Ive tried adjusting the feed forks but they are now at their limit and the bales are still banana shaped. Is there something that I can do with the timing on the feed forks. They are at the moment working at 180 deg to each other. ie. when one is up the other is down. Is this correct because the manual is a little vague in this area.
Thanks in advance.

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Errin OH

10-26-2005 13:06:15




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to SA shane, 10-26-2005 00:12:09  
Some great stuff and these guys know what they are talking about. Most of the following was OJT or with the help of these fella's

Question....

Which way and when are the bowing (assume side)? Up, down, or to the side. Straight out of the shoot or when they are picked up?

Up or down right out of the shoot could be hay dogs. If your having knot issues (not always) and the bale in bowing up from the shoot check the upper hay dogs. Down, rolling off the wagon shoot, lower hay dogs. My little red (older) Ford baler misses terribly when the upper spring on the dog go's.

Side bowing, is likely feed issuses into the chamber. But not necessarly. The ide'r is to have a even amount of hay pressed evenly into the bale. Anything that disrupts that can create issues (ie. hay dogs). Push it in to far and it bunches up one one side, same with to not pushing it in far enough. The condition of the chamber can add to this as well. One side all rusted up and rough, will tend to hold that side and not pack right. Dull knifes and/or plunger aligment can affect it too. Not cutting clean and leaving hay folded over on the cut side.

If they come out fine but bow up or to the side when picked up or droped of the ramp, the bale could be just to loose. You should be makin a bale every 16 strokes. If your up in the 20+ range they are not going to be packed right and may bow on ya. Gets worse when you move them around. Bigger rows, step up a gear (but do not out run the pickup), just feed it constantly. My hay dogs clank when the plunger passes them. Makes for easy counting of strokes.

Hopefully it is not like mine and on good dry (to dry) hay you can't get it tight enough (loose bales). I know when I get it right by the adjustment (bout 2/3), bale weight (60lb), and lenght (const 36"). I can make hay all day with no issues, but I have struggled to keep it constant at times. Even in good hay. Some times it just doesn't work. Little to wet, little to dry, uneven rows, just a bad day.

Also don't be to quick on the adjustments. Making and readjusting on the next bale is to soon. I judge every 3rd bale. One and half already in the shoot (old settings), half to complete bad half, 3rd bale out is the new settings.

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Jim.UT

10-26-2005 11:51:05




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to SA shane, 10-26-2005 00:12:09  
I have a 542 and I second what Jerry D says: make those windrows plenty big. Skimpy windrows will make a bad bale. With the feed forks 180 deg from each other it will eat up a big windrow amazingly well.

Having said that, I have to admit that I have been guilty of overdoing the windrow size, but usually when the baler can't handle the quantity of hay I've thrown at it, it's just a matter of stopping and backing up a couple of feet to let the baler catch up.

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Jim.UT

10-26-2005 11:54:42




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to Jim.UT, 10-26-2005 11:51:05  
Oh yeah, I almost forgot the obligatory link



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Jerry D in NC

10-26-2005 17:28:33




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to Jim.UT, 10-26-2005 11:54:42  
Thanks Jim



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NHBalerman

10-26-2005 06:35:01




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to SA shane, 10-26-2005 00:12:09  
Tell us which side of the bale is longer than the other or which side is shorter and then we might can help you out further. NHBalerman (who likes old Ford balers also)



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Jerry D in NC

10-26-2005 17:27:46




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to NHBalerman, 10-26-2005 06:35:01  
did you get that 542 up and going.... How about some pics



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NHBalerman

10-26-2005 19:21:38




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to Jerry D in NC, 10-26-2005 17:27:46  
Well,I am almost through with it,still just a few minor adjustments to make. I have one small field here by the shop that I am going to try it out on and I will be glad to let you know. Daddy has one of those cameras that will put the picture on the computor and I will see if he will take some pictures of it and put them on the computor.And special thanks to Errin from Ohio for the knotter it is good to have friends so far away.

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Jerry D in NC

10-26-2005 03:38:23




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to SA shane, 10-26-2005 00:12:09  
I am guessing that you are working on a 530 baler. If so then the feed forks are right when they are 180 degrees from each other. The manual is actually wrong and if you follow its setup instructions then they will be in phase and not work very well at all. If you have adjusted the forks to the inner mos position then I would recommend that you increase the windrow size. Keep that baler fairly well fed and it will make good bales. If it is a 532/542 then there are several other things to do but they are in the manual

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SA shane

10-26-2005 15:43:33




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to Jerry D in NC, 10-26-2005 03:38:23  
Thanks for all that info.Yes it is a 530 baler. I'm not exactly sure whether the bale bends to the left or the right but it bends sideways. I,m in Australia and we are just starting to gear up for hay season and I am just asking these questions because I can remember last year I had a problem. I will try to make the windrows bigger as I recall last year the paddock I did was rather light on. How big should the rows be? Just thinking about it I think the bales where bending away from the knife side and that is why I tried to adjust the feed fork so that it would push the hay further into the chamber. Thanks for all your replies.

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Jerry D in NC

10-26-2005 16:53:04




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 Re: Ford Baler in reply to SA shane, 10-26-2005 15:43:33  
Please go to the link that JimUT provided above and if you can get pictures I will post them. Just email them to me and I will get them up. Errin has covered many of the things that can affect bale shape but know that how you feed it is one of the most important factors. experiment and get to know the baler and it will serve you well

Wow a little blue baler in Australia



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