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Beaglefarmerblue

10-13-2005 15:12:05




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I am considering purchasing a 1980 MF 750 combine with 3400 hrs. I was wondering if anyone had any pointers as to what components I should look at before purchasing. I want to be thorough when I go to look at this combine and I want to make sure I don't buy a piece of junk.

The dealer has told me that the combine is a one owner and has always been shedded. It was used on a 200 acre farm 3 miles down the road from the dealer. The combine was purchased new from the dealer. I was told that the combine was used by the dealer to cut beans and shell corn this fall and everything is in good working order.

What I hear sounds good but I want to be thorough in my research and make a sound buying decision.

If any one has any ideas please let me know.

Thanks

P.S. I will be using this combine on 100 acres or less.

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750 Massey

10-29-2005 05:30:06




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
Look at the fan shaft bearings that cool the engine,they may be ready for replacement



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Beaglefarmerblue

10-19-2005 09:48:42




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 Here is what I found out about the 1980 MF 750 com in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
I went and looked at the MF 750 combine this past Monday. Everything looked real good. The machine looks very solid and runs great.

I did find two problems that jumped out at me. The first problem is a hydraulic leak on the cab side of the combine about half way back the combine. It looks like the main hydraulic pump for the system. The second problem is that the cab is sprung. Apparently the farmer that traded the machine hit a tree limb going down the road and bent the cab. There is a cable running from one corner of the cab to the corner of the hopper. Naturally, the cab door does not close properly.

The dealer is asking $4,500.00 for the machine with a 15" bean head. I think the cab issue makes the machine a piece of junk.

I can live with a bent cab for now, but I would like to price out what it would cost to replace the cab with a used one.

I was thinking of offering the dealer $2,000.00 for the machine. What do you guys think?

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Beaglefarmerblue

10-19-2005 09:41:53




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 Here is what I found out about the 1980 MF 750 com in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
I went and looked at the MF 750 combine this past Monday. Everything looked real good. The machine looks very solid and runs great.

I did find two problems that jumped out at me. The first problem is a hydraulic leak on the cab side of the combine about half way back the combine. It looks like the main hydraulic pump for the system. The second problem is that the cab is sprung. Apparently the farmer that traded the machine hit a tree limb going down the road and bent the cab. There is a cable running from one corner of the cab to the corner of the hopper. Naturally, the cab door does not close properly.

The dealer is asking $4,500.00 for the machine with a 15" bean head. I think the cab issue makes the machine a piece of junk.

I can live with a bent cab for now, but I would like to price out what it would cost to replace the cab with a used one.

I was thinking of offering the dealer $2,000.00 for the machine. What do you guys think?

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shoe

10-14-2005 19:26:45




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
In the 80's I owned several combines, one of which was a 760 Massey. It was a decent machine but was
not the machine that everyone said it was. I then bought a L2 Gleaner now that's a combine. Most bearings on the massey are metric, and the only
place to buy them are from the dealer, and they
rob ya. Find ya a good L2 gleaner and they are twice the machine even the 760 was. Just an opinion by
experience.

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tractor on silo

10-14-2005 14:11:01




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 MF COMBINE in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
I BOUGHT A NEW ONE IN 1974 I PUT 500 ACRES OF CROP EACH YEAR I HAD VERY LITTLE TROUBLE..WITH 6 ROW CORN HEAD 15FT GRAIN HEAD STRAW CHOPER LIST PRICE $38000.00 IT HAD A GAS ENGINE RETIRE IN 1988. SO DID THE MF MACHINE..... ....BILL



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farmermatt

10-14-2005 05:40:35




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
I guess all anyone is gonna do is bash masseys and not answer your question. Parts availability is a small issue, most bearings I can find at the local auto parts store. I do however buy them at the nearest (40 miles) massey dealer. The advice I get from those guys is more than worth the extra few dollars I pay them for parts. All belts and most parts (ie walkers, augers, bars, beaters, etc) are available aftermarket. As for what to check out to see if its junk or not. Just check for normal wear on augers and sprockets. Make sure the walkers arent all beat up from slugging. Try to get a good view and feel of the concave and ofcourse cylinder bars. Get a good look at the clean grain auger drive, its just behind the bin on the left hand side with a pitman driving an ecentric pulley, two bearings there arent a big deal to replace but if theyre out, the pitman really pounds away at the housing and surrounding area. Check to make sure the area isnt all broken up.
The last place to pay particular attention to is the feeder house. Where it mounts on the machine and pivots, sometimes it breaks up. With the weights of 6row corn head up there after time cracks develope. Just get a good view of the pivot area, not something that happens yearly but after time it can. Dont let these guys discourage you from the masseys and if you have anymore questions about em just ask. Good luck
Matt

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casered

10-14-2005 03:44:46




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
I have always been told they were troublesome machines with bearing failures. Don"t know how much truth there is to that butits what i"ve always heard.

We run a 1440 IH on about 170 acres with no problems whatsoever. Great machine and hasx been said you can pick one up for a fairly decent price nowadays. Ours has well over 3500 hours and still going strong. We use a 15" flex head and a four row corn head on it. Handles both very well.

Personaly I would pass and go to either a IH or a JD. JD can be had pretty easily in our area.

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j meyer

10-13-2005 19:27:51




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
Well...its 25 years old, the hours are getting a bit high, and the price is a bit high too. If Massey parts are around your area, your lucky. Our nearest true MF dealer is over 110 miles away. They were once the king for many farmers, but their day is setting in the horizon.



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Seth_ia

10-13-2005 19:27:29




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
We ran run for over 10 years. Very good machines, but in our area, they are VERY hard to get parts for. They have more moving parts compared to a Case-IH Axil Flow. They probelly have about the same number of parts compared to a deere. Personally I love Deere equipment, but when it comes to combines I would would buy an Axil-Flow. Some old 1440 are getting pretty cheap. Expect all combines of that age to need alot of bearings and such.

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Seth_ia

10-15-2005 18:06:03




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Seth_ia, 10-13-2005 19:27:29  
I forgot to mention the massey heads. The heads are what gave us most of are grief if I remember correctly. The actual combine didn't have too many major problems. We did seem to have more bearings go out than the neighbors with Ih and JD combines of simular age, but those are relativly cheap if you have the time. The heads are junk. We finally got rid of the corn head and put a 643 JD on it. Made the combine work must better. The masey corn heads leave alot of long uncut stalks. Which caused problems when disk chiseling. The Kicker for us was when a bearing on the rear drive shaft went out and to replace the bearing required pulling the whole shaft! It was going to be a semi major project. Did not seem worth it on a head we hated. The platform is another set of problems. Masseys have a belt drive reel, not an orbital motor like all the other companies. We could never keep the reel speed controler working, and couldn't put another brand of platform on since the hydrolics were not there. Would be an OK machine if you have very few acres.

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famermatt

10-15-2005 22:50:33




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Seth_ia, 10-15-2005 18:06:03  
Yes massey made belt drive reels..... . back in the 70s when the rest of the manufacturers had the same thing. Not that a belt drive reel is a bad thing anyway. Although the hydraulic drive is easier to vary the speed.



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ejr-IA.

10-13-2005 19:13:04




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
Had one once I chased for parts all the time it went straight to the salvage yard.Now have a red axialflow what a relief.



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ejr-IA.

10-13-2005 19:12:35




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
Had one once I chased for parts all the time it went straight to the salvage yard.Now have a red axialflow what a relief.



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RickL

10-13-2005 18:13:54




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to Beaglefarmerblue, 10-13-2005 15:12:05  
You do what works for you but the luck of that machine I would not have it even if it was given to me. Father in law had one new unit nothing but headaches. A neighbor bought one two seasons ago for a small farm and had nothing but troubles and he is trying to sell it,in fact he has that machine plus a 510 and they can both be had for 1500.00. i have always run green with very little trouble,but you do wjhat wiorks for you.

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edchainsaw

10-14-2005 19:30:04




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to RickL, 10-13-2005 18:13:54  
well Rick I am sorry you had such troubles or knew them as trouble

we had a deere one time... dad loved it.. exept it was broke down constantly and so it became another massey..

we had masseys since there were masseys... like the super 26"s.

we still have a 1980 760(last one to leave the facotry we were told by the trucker that hauled it and a new 860 out) its a hangar queen out of respect for its service(there is a story in this ask if you want to know) we run an c-IH and dont ask me about the problems that sucker has... I can give you a big list mechanics been here 3 times this year.. thats about average for it. as for the old MF"s:
bearings go out folks, belts break, walkers wear with age, augers were, chains streach, concaves wear, air conditioning quits, batteries,
but we have never had a problem getting a part within 8hrs and dealers are 60 and 90miles away.

BUT THEY DO ON EVERYTHING!

one thing to check is the grain pan.. if it has run in MUD! it will break or be broken... just a fact

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RickL

10-15-2005 13:09:59




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to edchainsaw, 10-14-2005 19:30:04  
Like I always say if it works for you then nothing else matters what color it is. That wa salways the problem combine in our area and to find parts that another item also in this area the old 510 era yes they were popular but like I mention in the other posst you can't even give them away now. I use to run Olivers then when white got involved they were junk been Deere ever since and just finished harvest with no problems. And yea you can get a lemon in any color sometimes. In my area if you are not running 25ft -30ft platforms and eight thru twelve row heads you just well stay in the shed. Mine is antique to most of the neighbors now 1988unit. BUT ITS PAID FOR!!!!

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edchainsaw

10-16-2005 15:51:54




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to RickL, 10-15-2005 13:09:59  
ya I know what you mean about the big stuff

we happen to have a 2188 (9yrs old and paid for)
and were one of the first with 8row head.. but now we are way back in line.. and just hold on. we use to get calls for us to rent their ground. but now we lose ground



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RickL

10-15-2005 13:06:35




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 Re: Things to look for in a 1980 MF 750 combine be in reply to edchainsaw, 10-14-2005 19:30:04  
Like I always say if it works for you then nothing else matters what color it is. That wa salways the problem combine in our area and to find parts that another item also in this area the old 510 era yes they were popular but like I mention in the other posst you can't even give them away now. I use to run Olivers then when white got involved they were junk been Deere ever since and just finished harvest with no problems. And yea you can get a lemon in any color sometimes

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