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First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics)

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billOH

10-07-2005 07:33:44




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Hi Guys,

I thought you might like to critique my first attempt at building a hay wagon. I got the frame as part of a larger trade for a couple of calves, and the project of re-finishing and re-building took about three weeks.

Here's what the original frame looked like:
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The wheels are 16-inch, five lug-nut, Firestones.

After much work and planning, the wagon itself turned out thusly:

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The deck is 14x8. I'm actually pretty happy with the final product, though there are a few things I would do differently next time.

My only concern is with the rack posts. I've attached them with double brackets, but I would still like them to be sturdier. (I HATE loose racks on a wagon!) Any ideas on how I might beef these babies up?

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Thanks for listening..

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Leroy

10-09-2005 08:23:54




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
Looks good but I would have styed with 7' wide, that is the widest we ever had with others 6 1/2' wide and always staked at 2 1/2 bale wide, that front board is a good stiffner that we did not have but I have made several for storing things on since and put it on and I see no way that toung should be able to hit it like an other poster said, if that happens you are where you should not be. You also have the rub rails on the side that is good for when you turn too close and hit the side of the bed on something and have to slide past without breaking something and with your 8' wide you will be doing that more than you think. The uprights on the back we always had just 2 2X4 set in brackets that you could lift out when not needed to put in barn, you could put 4 uprights on back to make stiffer

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Michael Soldan

10-09-2005 06:01:15




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
Bill, that's pretty much the way I do it,fix up a running gear and paint it, then build, you have a good solid wagon that should last a long time. I spray my racks with Thompson's water seal. I put it in the garden sprayer and spray them all when I get them out in the spring. They are out for the summer and when we have finished the straw they are put in in the fall. Water seal makes water bead on them and it protects the wood from rain and sun damage. Good luck haying...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Randy-IA

10-08-2005 08:14:15




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
Hi Bill , I did my first hay rack this summer also . It looks to me like you did a fine job ! I think as you use it you'll find out way's you wished you hadn't and had done it different . I couldn't tell from the pictures if you left any space between the deck boards for chaff to fall through . A layer of loose hay can get pretty slippery on treated lumber . It was suggested to me to leave at least an 1" between boards , I left 3/4" because my boards are rough cut white oak that are less than 6 months old so are still fairly green . Your rack looks good !...Randy

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Jimmy King

10-07-2005 14:28:40




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
Bill, that is a good looking bed. when we were using square bales our wagons had 7x14 beds and after we stopped thrashing we didn"t even use a standard on the back. Stacked long ways down the middle two cross ways on each side second layer move the long ways bale to one side next layer on the other side. Four layers then two rows cross ways as ties then one row cross way as tie haul 100 bales that way don"t remember ever loosing a load. If you stack that way you won"t have any pressure on your standard.

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paul

10-07-2005 13:18:28




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
Looks nice. :)

I would angle the back rack back a few degrees - dad did on the 2 he made here, and it's amazing how much better the bales stay on - as they 'stairstep' a 1/2 inch or so per bale as you go up - makes such a difference. A loose rack is no problem, with a slight angle to it. Not much, just a little bit.

Angle braces on the front as some suggest work, but are horribly in my way, never liked a rack with those on. Even the extra 2 feet stringer in back is in my way. I like about what you have, maybe woulda used carrage bolts instead of just lag bolts.

That front lower board would also be in the way for my ditch baling.

Nice looking tho, good job!

--->Paul

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caseyc

10-07-2005 11:10:42




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
next time make the runners another two feet longer out the back and then brace the back down to the runners, it's alot more stabble and leaves the whole deck open. i would also leave the board off the front. i have alot of ditches i cross and would need the tougne to flex alot higher than what yours will. otherwise it's a sharp looking rack!

casey



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ebbsspeed

10-07-2005 10:10:30




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
Ours always had a couple of diagonal boards, running from the top of the rear "fence" down to each side of the wagon, at about a 45 degree angle. Made the rear a lot more sturdy. It looks nice!



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Kelly Campbell

10-07-2005 08:14:08




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
How about a couple of cariage bolts and a steel plate on the back side of the 2x8 or what ever it is? Just a thought...

Kelly



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Kelly Campbell

10-07-2005 08:13:41




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
How about a couple of cariage bolts and a steel plate on the back side of the 2x8 or what ever it is? Just a thought...

Kelly



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BobMo

10-07-2005 08:01:01




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to billOH, 10-07-2005 07:33:44  
BillOH, compared to what I use this is great. Looks to me like you've done a good job, but I think you'll be like me and wish it was bigger.



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Illinois Boy

10-07-2005 11:17:10




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to BobMo, 10-07-2005 08:01:01  
Looks Great!!
The only thing I think you might want to add is some eye bolts or similar thing along the sides to tie down the bales during transport. I think ya" did a "heck-uv-a-job"...



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JMS/MN

10-07-2005 15:50:35




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 Re: First attempt at building a hay wagon (pics) in reply to Illinois Boy, 10-07-2005 11:17:10  
Never saw tiedowns along the rack, but I'd put them underneath, so they don't snag on things. Always altered each layer of the stack to hold the load together, but if going some distance, tiedowns would be ok.



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