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MACE

09-28-2005 17:31:05




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Hay,

Just purchased an old 717 Forage Harvester for 50.00 dollars. I believe I got all the parts that came with it. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions about this piece. It has seen some years. I plan to at least give it a good blasting and a new paint job. Any history or facts are more than welcome.

MACE




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spink885

10-02-2005 07:48:16




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-28-2005 17:31:05  
These chopper are really good. I own one with the one row corn head and have the hay head as well. We use it evey year to cut about 30 acres each year for my grandpa"s dairy farm. I"m going to run it on my MM GTB next year but it runs just fine on his AC 7030 or JD 4020. Even had chopped hay with a 3020 as well. Would trade for another one.



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spink885

10-02-2005 07:47:38




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-28-2005 17:31:05  
These chopper are really good. I own one with the one row corn head and have the hay head as well. We use it evey year to cut about 30 acres each year for my grandpa"s dairy farm. I"m going to run it on my MM GTB next year but it runs just fine on his AC 7030 or JD 4020. Even had chopped hay with a 3020 as well. Would trade for another one.



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MJ in the UK

09-29-2005 07:07:01




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-28-2005 17:31:05  
New Holland sold a lot of these machines in the UK. The UK ones were made in the Aylesbury UK factory.



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Steve from New Holland

09-30-2005 04:19:43




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MJ in the UK, 09-29-2005 07:07:01  
Wow, I never knew about the English factory that produced New Holland harvesters. Is there anyway you would be able to take a photo of one and email it to me? I would find that highly interesting. Thanks, Steve



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Steve from New Holland

09-29-2005 04:25:55




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-28-2005 17:31:05  
Now this was a very good harvester in it's day. It came out in the mid 1960's. As Tim told you, it is a cut and throw machine, meaning the cutterhead not only cuts the material, but it also is the fan that throws the material into the wagon. The number one reason none of these machines are used by farmers today (besides capacity) is the fact that it does not have a seperate blower. When chopping haylage, you must keep the cutterhead drum adjusted up close to the knives or the machine just will not blow the hay to the back of a wagon. If you look at the drum, it is held in place by about 100 bolts!(OK, maybe not quite 100) But it is a pain to keep set up. Otherwise, these machines are good. I can chop faster with a 717 with 60 to 70 horsepower then anyone will with a NH 770, Gehl 600, or JD 38 with 70 to 80 horsepower. They really did not require much power to chop with. Steve

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Nathan (SD)

09-29-2005 21:05:00




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 Re:not everyone has gave up on the 717 in reply to Steve from New Holland, 09-29-2005 04:25:55  
still cut about 25 acres every year with one. We plant 38inch rows at about 36000 plants to the acre. It handles all those plants year after year flawlessly. It also handles the 95hp being put to it all day long. There is a reason these machines are still around after 40 years. they were built to last. The 741 head I am not fond of though. Every year it needs something replaced compared to the rest of the machine that needs nothing. Ours also has the nine knife cutterhead.

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MACE

09-29-2005 08:07:43




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to Steve from New Holland, 09-29-2005 04:25:55  
OK fellas,

Thanks for the comments so far. Was this machine used mostly for making feed for cattle or have I got it all wrong. One of you mentioned haylage. I noticed a picture of one cutting corn stalks as well.

MACE



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Steve from New Holland

09-30-2005 04:17:38




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-29-2005 08:07:43  
They were made to cut anything you might use to fill a silo. In the 1960's, corn was the main thing, but on dairy farms alot of farmers chop hay. Steve



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Steve from New Holland

09-30-2005 04:17:28




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-29-2005 08:07:43  
They were made to cut anything you might use to fill a silo. In the 1960's, corn was the main thing, but on dairy farms alot of farmers chop hay. Steve



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Tim(nj)

09-28-2005 18:41:55




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 Re: New Holland 717 in reply to MACE, 09-28-2005 17:31:05  
That"s a cut-and-throw type chopper. If you are planning on using it, the knives must be good and sharp or you will suck up a lot of HP and not get the material to the back of the wagon.



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