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When to lime???

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Gaby

09-16-2005 12:26:01




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Sorry, not sure if this is the right place to ask this question- Attempting to increase hay yield (mostly timothy) that has not received fert. or manure in 10-15 yrs. Will soil test but feel it is in bad need of lime.(greenish looking moss visable) Not much $ until next spring. Question- Is there a "quick acting" lime that could be applied next spring for next yrs. crop? Thanks.




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kyhayman

09-17-2005 22:13:37




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 Re: When to lime??? in reply to Gaby, 09-16-2005 12:26:01  
If money's tight thats all the more reason to get a soil test. Lime may very well be needed but all the moss is telling you is its an open stand and needs 'something'. If I had to guess right off, with nothing for 15 years I'd say potash. Timothy tolerates low pH pretty well and low phosshate too. Nitrogen and potassium (potash) it needs a lot of.



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Ossie

09-17-2005 17:10:19




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 Re: When to lime??? in reply to Gaby, 09-16-2005 12:26:01  
You say money is limited....well given the choice between lime and fertlizer...PUT ON THE LIME ..now is the best time the sooner the better and yes you do need a soil test ..take it before you lime but lime anyway NOW. Then take into consideration what the soil test results are. I would doubt that any amount of lime will take you past a ph of 7 so you are probally safe with however much you can afford.

Good Luck

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Hugh MacKay

09-17-2005 02:58:19




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 Re: When to lime??? in reply to Gaby, 09-16-2005 12:26:01  
Gaby: Go to soil testing, then take advice from your local County Ag people. Lime need, application, etc. vary greatly with geographic location. I could tell you what worked well for me, but that doesn't mean it will work well in your area. I can tell you, if you are starting with soil below the 5.5 range, you will have to apply several times but will see improved crop yields for 10 years. In other words it will take 10 to realize full potential.

The very best and quickest results I seen with lime are disking it in at time of application. But again that may vary with soil type and location.

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Jerry/MT

09-16-2005 18:11:46




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 Re: When to lime??? in reply to Gaby, 09-16-2005 12:26:01  
If you can at all do it, fall is the best time to lime. It takes time for the lime to work down into the soil and if you put it on now, when you fertilize in the springtime you'll see a tremendous response if you have a low pH soil.



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Illinois Boy

09-16-2005 12:35:21




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 Re: When to lime??? in reply to Gaby, 09-16-2005 12:26:01  
Gaby,
Pelletized lime is what you want for something to start working fast.
Crushed lime is for next year.
Next year, hit the field with some N after each cutting - you'll be amazed at the results...



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mike brown

09-16-2005 17:20:42




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 Re: When to lime??? in reply to Illinois Boy, 09-16-2005 12:35:21  
ph is doable as a quick in the field test. Kits are available at garden stores. It may not be quite as precise as sending in samples but it will give you a pretty good idea what you got. Right now you are with out good information if you are relying on moss.



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