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GH in oh

08-31-2005 08:34:59




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I am looking for a ways to make a better (smooth) seedbed after plowing. I only farm a few hundred acres so i don't need the best equipment out there. Most of my plowing is done with a chisel plow, then i follow with a disk. However, i am just not happy with the seedbed, and with fuel prices, i don't want to go over the field more than two or three times. A friend of my suggested a cultimulcher. I was just wondering if anybody else had a good experience with one. If anybody has any suggestions other than a cultimulcher, please feel free to comment. I forgot to add, my soil is pretty heavy clay. Thanks for all your help

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midalake

09-01-2005 16:44:07




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 Re: Tillage in reply to GH in oh, 08-31-2005 08:34:59  
Tillage is just that..... Get your self a big 3pt tiller..... .One of those 120 inch models. It might take a little longer the first time. But what a seed bed!!! The key is to get a tiller with adjustable tine speed.
I can work with mine in 2-1 mode with great results.



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dave from MN

09-01-2005 05:57:22




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 Re: Tillage in reply to GH in oh, 08-31-2005 08:34:59  
The uncle used to farm 400 acres that he just moldboard plowes with a harrow or rotary hoe drag attached to the plow. If there were spots that were rough we ran out with disc with attached harrow and hit it, other wise the plante came right behind it. Did that for over 20 years. Still some of the best land around. Current owners are plowing,dicing ,feild cultivating 2 times before planting. Kinda winder what will happen to it in 20 years

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RickL

09-01-2005 04:43:01




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 Re: Tillage in reply to GH in oh, 08-31-2005 08:34:59  
use a harrowgator or a discmulcher,this is not a cultimulcher. This unit has disc blades up front then row of vibra tine shanks then a Big roller on the rear. Are you chiseling in the spring or fall.



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John A.

08-31-2005 20:52:17




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 Re: Tillage in reply to GH in oh, 08-31-2005 08:34:59  
GH, I like a 20 ft RR rail. Will leave the surface very smooth. You need very dry conditions, and crop residue sure-enough plowed in and cut up very well.
Later,
John A.



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thejdman01

08-31-2005 14:08:49




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 Re: Tillage in reply to GH in oh, 08-31-2005 08:34:59  
had good luck with an old 20 ft kewanee disc and a tow behind drag. drag hanging on the back very ineffective. a seperate tow behind works well



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paul

08-31-2005 09:49:21




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 Re: Tillage in reply to GH in oh, 08-31-2005 08:34:59  
Plow (molboard for stalks, chisel for bean stubble) in fall, run a field cultivator (old IH 45 vibrashank with 2 bar harrow attachment) over it once in spring. Plant.

Winter really mellows the soil here in Minnesota.

--->Paul



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Allan in NE

08-31-2005 12:04:41




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 Re: Tillage in reply to paul, 08-31-2005 09:49:21  
Hi Paul,

I just came from the implement dealer and he says the same as you.

Recommends a 6" spaced vibrashank equipped with duckfeet for the secondary tillage. Says also to use the spring tooth as an erosion control device like Ken refers to.

So, looks like I get to buy two implemenets instead of just one. :>(

Allan



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JMS/MN

08-31-2005 14:16:31




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 Re: Tillage in reply to Allan in NE, 08-31-2005 12:04:41  
A springtooth and field cultivator are basically the same thing- the springtooth being an older and somewhat lighter built machine. Field cultivators generally have spring loaded shanks to handle the rocks, whereas springtooth cultivators just broke the springteeth. Most field cultivators have shanks on 6 inch spacing, but Glencoe built theirs on 7 inch. 6-7 inch does not refer to spacing on any one frame member- it is in reference to total coverage of the machine. We generally run a mounted tine tooth harrow on the rear frame to smooth the field. Here's the kicker when looking at used machines: Late model machines have more spacing between the ranks (ie front to back) so they handle trash better than earlier machines. Might pull a bit harder with the longer frame, but the trash flows through without plugging- just like comparing recent moldboard plow frames with ones made 40 years ago.

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JMS/MN

08-31-2005 14:20:52




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 Re: Tillage in reply to JMS/MN, 08-31-2005 14:16:31  
Tooth options for a field cultivator are anything from a 2 inch quack tooth to 4-6-8 inch or wider duckfoot. Wider ones pull harder, but can undercut entire soil surface. On my disc chisel I run 4 inch twisted for primary fall tillage, but if I have any primary spring tillage on heavy ground I run 12-16 inch sweeps, shallow, and it works up a good seedbed without bringing up a lot of cold soil.

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mike brown

08-31-2005 10:01:12




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 Re: Tillage in reply to paul, 08-31-2005 09:49:21  
i made a buster bar for my old IH 70 plow years ago that leaves a nice smooth surface, eliminates one or two passes with a harrow. It doesn't work as well when plowing sod. I don't plow much any more and a disc does a nice job.



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KRUSS

08-31-2005 12:59:30




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 Re: Tillage in reply to mike brown, 08-31-2005 10:01:12  
Isn't it amazing how something that is obselete on one area works in another?? I have a 24 foot no' 45 vibrashank in excellent condition that I haven't used in years. Hydaulic wings, not cable. It won't help where you guys are, but i'd sell it for $150. I tried taking every second shank off it and converting it into an anhydrous outfit, but it wasn't what I wanted.



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RickL

09-01-2005 04:39:17




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 Re: Tillage in reply to KRUSS, 08-31-2005 12:59:30  
are you still wanting a anhydrous applicator of some sort. I have a very good older 11 shank unit with brand new coulters on it needing to get rid of or it will be cut up I geuss.



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dirtfarmer

08-31-2005 15:57:33




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 Re: Tillage in reply to KRUSS, 08-31-2005 12:59:30  
Where are you at? Someone may be interested!



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KRUSS

08-31-2005 16:36:57




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 Re: Tillage in reply to dirtfarmer, 08-31-2005 15:57:33  
SW Manitoba, if anyone is interested post me on this forum, i check it daily or almost.



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paul

08-31-2005 22:45:21




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 Re: Tillage in reply to KRUSS, 08-31-2005 16:36:57  
My part of Minnesota, a 16-18' will bring $150, a 22-24' will bring $500 or so.

--->Paul



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