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scottie

12-24-1999 19:41:12




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does anyone know how to get a farm wagon, not a hay wagon, but something similar for lighter work, or also maybe the plans on how to build one. Like what everyone uses to take their fence posts to the field, or what everyone uses to haul wood, to the barn, etc. You know what i am talking about. I guess just a plain farm wagon. Scottie

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Tim(ny)

12-28-1999 06:06:00




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 Re: wagon in reply to scottie, 12-24-1999 19:41:12  
Scottie, for general hauling, you don't want a 4 wheel anything, and it seems like that's what's being discussed here mostly. Too much trouble backing up. You want a trailer, not a wagon. A gutted, dead manure spreader makes a good big one, or the back end of a dead pickup truck makes a good small one. Pick the size you like. Buy or make, either way they're usually readily available and pretty cheap.

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Steve Hansen

12-26-1999 15:02:03




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 Re: wagon in reply to scottie, 12-24-1999 19:41:12  
Scottie,

Country Manufacturing [http://www.countrymfg] makes some nice trailers for compact tractors. Check their web site for ideas. As the others have said, most farm trailers are homemade. I have one made out of an old Ford Courier pickup bed. It has sides and I use it to haul firewood. I can hitch it up to my tractor and go into the woods for a load and the tow it home behind my pickup. One of my Winter projets is a trailer that I can use when I "rock" my place in the Spring. Will use a narrowed mobile home axle and a simple angle iron frame. No suspension. Something as simple as I can get by with. I will fabricate and my welding buddy will stich it together after dinner. Once you know what you want and what you can get fer cheap you can build one too. Good luck!

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Aaron

12-25-1999 06:50:22




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 Re: wagon in reply to scottie, 12-24-1999 19:41:12  
I think you are refering to the barge box wagons popular in the middle of this century. They look like a hay wagon, only they have sides, right? Try checking with some local auctioneers and ask about upcoming sales. You can also try some farm equipment dealers. If they don't have any, I'm sure they know where one is. If you are near Iowa, I know a dealer that has several, and a consignment auction this spring will have quite a few as well.
Aaron

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Scottie

12-25-1999 17:36:49




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 Re: Re: wagon in reply to Aaron, 12-25-1999 06:50:22  
Ya, just something to take hay to the animals, compost to the compost pile, wood to the machine shed and stuff, something bigger then a garden wagon.



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paul

12-25-1999 18:33:12




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 Re: Re: Re: wagon in reply to Scottie, 12-25-1999 17:36:49  
You asked for something smaller than a hayrack. Barge boxes are often the same size. Would a flare box interest you? I'm assuming you want something you can man-handle a little, push around by hand if you need to. Some flare boxes are built a little lighter with metal sides, and can be had for $100 at auction sales.

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Aaron

12-25-1999 19:18:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: wagon in reply to paul, 12-25-1999 18:33:12  
You've never seen an Iowa hay rack, have you? Our barge boxes are the same length as a flare box, but have no flares. Our hay racks are wider and longer than a barge box by several feet. But, you are right, a flare box would work as well or better. Harder to find here, though.
Aaron



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Scottie

12-25-1999 19:37:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: wagon in reply to Aaron, 12-25-1999 19:18:15  
As you all know i am beginner at farming, what is a barge box and a flare box. I know what a hay wagon is, and looks like. I need something smaller, something that would go good witha 30 to 50 hp tractor for farm chores. Are one of these what i am looking for?



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Aaron

12-25-1999 21:02:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: wagon in reply to Scottie, 12-25-1999 19:37:15  
A barge box is a box that has straight sides. The ones we have are around 7 to 8 feet wide and 10 to 12 feet long. The hay racks around here are about 10' wide and 15 or more feet long and have only a back. A flare box is a box that is about 3' wide at the bottom, goes straight up for a couple of feet, flares out to 6' or so, then goes striaght up again, for a hight in the middle of 4 or 5'. Best examples (if you can picture on a smaller scale) is a dump truck (most barge boxes have a hoist for dumping) and a road sander (flare boxes have that look, a fertilizer buggy comes close). If I had my scanner I would scan some pictures and send them to you. I think a barge box with a hoist is much more useful than the others.
Aaron

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paul

12-26-1999 20:29:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: wagon in reply to Aaron, 12-25-1999 21:02:01  
Some big hay racks around here, often on JD running gears. (The running gear is the frame & wheels under the rack.) Most tho are 6 ft wide by 10-12 ft long, hold 100 - 120 bales comfortably. They are on light-weight running gears, or gears made from welded old car front axles. They are about light enough to move around by hand on flat ground, and might be what Scott could use? Go for $100 or less around here.

A flare box is a cross between a barge box & gravity box. :) Barge is a typical rectangular wagon box. Gravity is one that dumps to the side, grain drains out by gravity, the bottom is all angled to the dump chute. A flare box has a flat bottom about 3 feet wide, which flares out wider.

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Fm.....

12-25-1999 08:39:24




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 Re: Re: wagon in reply to Aaron, 12-25-1999 06:50:22  
I know that gemplers has a little wagon that you can pull behind a small tractor that can carry eitehr 1000 or 2000 pounds, my freind has a couple for hauling vegetable out of the feild, hauling hay for his horses, posts, etc.



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Tim(nj)

12-25-1999 21:04:26




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 Re: Re: Re: wagon in reply to Fm....., 12-25-1999 08:39:24  
Be on the lookout for any auctions selling older (what some may consider junk) equipment. Often, there will be an old, lightweight wagon gear there that you can pick up cheap. A friend bought an old, narrow, 2-1/2 ton capacity New Idea steel wheeler for $10 once. The steel rims had rusted badly, so he cut them off and welded old pickup truck rims to the spokes, then put used 15" tires on. He built a new bed (measures something like 6'x12') out of treated lumber for it, with removable 18" sides and ends. Uses it for all kinds of odd jobs.

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Wayne

12-25-1999 01:29:54




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 Re: wagon in reply to scottie, 12-24-1999 19:41:12  
Sounds like you are wanting a pickup trailer. These can be picked up for around $75.



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paul

12-25-1999 12:06:17




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 Re: Re: wagon in reply to Wayne, 12-25-1999 01:29:54  
I also use a 2-wheel trailer for this type of work. Often welded up from an old car or pickup axle. Farm sales have lots for cheap, otherwise you will spend $500 or more for a factory job.

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